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  • ThacoBellThacoBell Member Posts: 12,235
    Balrog99 wrote: »
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    joluv wrote: »
    To be fair, NIH says 34.9% of 18- to 25-year-olds have used marijuana or hash in the last year, compared to 12.2% for 26 and up [source]. And in 2016, per the Census Bureau, "citizens 65 years and older reported higher turnout (70.9 percent) than 45- to 64-year-olds (66.6 percent), 30- to 44-year-olds (58.7 percent) and 18- to 29-year-olds (46.1 percent)" [source].

    I knew the statistics before I commented. I didn't pull the sarcasm completely out of my ass. You beat me to the punch-line @joluv !

    Yeah, nevermind that millenials are THE most productive generation in this country so far, we must all be pot smoking lazy good for nothings.

    That's up for debate. I'm not afraid to use the super-computer at my fingertips either and I'm not a millennial. I know many Gen-X'ers that haven't got a clue what they have at their disposal technology-wise so the point out there about Millennials being more plugged-in and techno-savvy has validity. However, working with, interviewing and training Millenials has shown me a few of their drawbacks as well. They seem to have no clue about working towards something, to the point where most interviewees are asking about management positions right out of college before they even demonstrate that they're skilled at what their being hired for. Their problem-solving skills are marginal at-best and trust me, your phone can't solve every problem. The most obvious thing I see is that they don't pick up after themselves! Hardly any of them. Im only talking about the Americans here. The interns we've gotten from Europe have been much better in regards to all of those points so it may just be a cultural thing.

    No, my comment is based on the actual statistics. You just seem determined to crap on an entire generation for zero reason whatsoever. Its just the same crap throwing I see in politics these days and I have zero tolerance for it.

    Didn't mean to offend you @ThacoBell . I like you and your unique viewpoints. I didn't even know you were a Millennial until you mentioned it. My sarcasm is never meant to insult, just a means of prodding people for their ideas. I find that getting people fired up is a good way to figure out how they really think. I can stoke up my Irish at will just to argue the most minor of points sometimes, and I do it to make people think and get insight into their point of view. That explains why I'm so popular with my family and friends...

    Having said that, I did manage to start an interesting discussion of generational differences. I just didnt realize folks would be so touchy about it. I find stereotypes amusing in that there are grains of truth in them even if they don't apply to everybody. I wouldn't take offense if anybody ripped on Gen-Xers but we seem to be relatively stereotype free for some reason.

    While I appreciate the clarification and the motive, the method seems like it creates issues.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    ThacoBell wrote: »
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    joluv wrote: »
    To be fair, NIH says 34.9% of 18- to 25-year-olds have used marijuana or hash in the last year, compared to 12.2% for 26 and up [source]. And in 2016, per the Census Bureau, "citizens 65 years and older reported higher turnout (70.9 percent) than 45- to 64-year-olds (66.6 percent), 30- to 44-year-olds (58.7 percent) and 18- to 29-year-olds (46.1 percent)" [source].

    I knew the statistics before I commented. I didn't pull the sarcasm completely out of my ass. You beat me to the punch-line @joluv !

    Yeah, nevermind that millenials are THE most productive generation in this country so far, we must all be pot smoking lazy good for nothings.

    That's up for debate. I'm not afraid to use the super-computer at my fingertips either and I'm not a millennial. I know many Gen-X'ers that haven't got a clue what they have at their disposal technology-wise so the point out there about Millennials being more plugged-in and techno-savvy has validity. However, working with, interviewing and training Millenials has shown me a few of their drawbacks as well. They seem to have no clue about working towards something, to the point where most interviewees are asking about management positions right out of college before they even demonstrate that they're skilled at what their being hired for. Their problem-solving skills are marginal at-best and trust me, your phone can't solve every problem. The most obvious thing I see is that they don't pick up after themselves! Hardly any of them. Im only talking about the Americans here. The interns we've gotten from Europe have been much better in regards to all of those points so it may just be a cultural thing.

    No, my comment is based on the actual statistics. You just seem determined to crap on an entire generation for zero reason whatsoever. Its just the same crap throwing I see in politics these days and I have zero tolerance for it.

    Didn't mean to offend you @ThacoBell . I like you and your unique viewpoints. I didn't even know you were a Millennial until you mentioned it. My sarcasm is never meant to insult, just a means of prodding people for their ideas. I find that getting people fired up is a good way to figure out how they really think. I can stoke up my Irish at will just to argue the most minor of points sometimes, and I do it to make people think and get insight into their point of view. That explains why I'm so popular with my family and friends...

    Having said that, I did manage to start an interesting discussion of generational differences. I just didnt realize folks would be so touchy about it. I find stereotypes amusing in that there are grains of truth in them even if they don't apply to everybody. I wouldn't take offense if anybody ripped on Gen-Xers but we seem to be relatively stereotype free for some reason.

    While I appreciate the clarification and the motive, the method seems like it creates issues.

    Sometimes, other times it leads to interesting conversations. It mostly depends on the state of mind of the person I'm engaging. Have you been harassed about the Millenial thing or maybe been teased about so much that you're sick of it? Just curiousity on my part, no need to answer if you don't want to...
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    Imagine someone injects you and half your entire generation with herpes and then you spend the next 10 years listening to lectures about how you wouldn't have herpes if you weren't so promiscuous.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    edited March 2019
    semiticgod wrote: »
    Don't know about being harassed in person, but millennials have a long-running complaint about various news articles that used to blame them for the deaths of various industries, since millennials' spending habits were so different from their parents'. There was an infamous article that tried to give advice to millennials, saying that they could afford to buy homes if they didn't foolishly waste their money on stuff like avocado toast.

    Millennials mercilessly mocked the author for treating low income so casually and acting like eating habits were responsible for people not being able to afford homes (that's a combination of rising prices and low wages among millennials). Like, there was this widely-circulated picture of a grocery cart filled with avocados with a caption saying "Well, I guess that guy can kiss his dreams of home ownership goodbye." Avocados kinda became a symbol for millennial stereotypes, as strange as it sounds.

    It's less common recently, but closer to the recession, there was a spate of articles saying millennials were "killing" certain industries because they weren't buying certain luxury goods. One of the most popular responses on Twitter to an Economic article that asked "Why Aren't Millennials Buying Diamonds?" was a simple tweet responding, "i work at a grocery store."

    Media commentary on millennials has frequently been condescending advice and blatant stereotyping, even in respectable media outlets like the New York Times. A lot of millennials are sensitive to the stereotypes, since they've heard them expressed so often.

    Well, other than spending too much for coffee at Starbucks, I don't have much insight into Millennial spending habits. I would guess that if there's any reason that they don't own homes its for the same reason that I don't have a sedan and a truck, a cabin up north, snowmobiles and an RV like my parents could afford. Millenials and Gen-X buying power just isn't the same as was for the Boomers...
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    semiticgod wrote: »
    Imagine someone injects you and half your entire generation with herpes and then you spend the next 10 years listening to lectures about how you wouldn't have herpes if you weren't so promiscuous.

    I don't have to. I have to listen to my sister explain how vaccinations are a government mind-control conspiracy. Good thing her son is old enough to already have his vaccinations before she decided the government was 'out to get her'...
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    edited March 2019
    Speaking of anti-vax, anybody else hear about the wonderful governor of Kentucky who intentionally exposed his kids to chicken-pox instead of having them vaccinated. I wonder if he'll expose them to polio or smallpox to make them 'tougher' too. Dipshit...
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,964
    deltago wrote: »
    So that neonazi sympathizer who mowed down people with his car killing one at the unite the right rally in Charoletteville pleaded guilty to 29 charges of hate crimes.

    He struck a deal with the prosecution to avoid the death penalty. He is now sentenced to life in prison.

    I generally don't like the death penalty. I think we execute a lot of people we shouldn't - even one is probably too much. But we, as a society, kill all kinds that DNA could exonerate and people that just are too dumb and confessed because cops coerced them.

    That being said, having the death penalty here is one of the useful things about it - the only useful thing I think again because I don't agree with it in general. That the Charlottesville terrorist pled guity to avoid the death penalty is a benefit. No trial. That's about it for me. I can see this leading to wrongful convictions too as innocent people who think they will be railroaded could plea to charges to avoid the death penalty too. But in this very very specific case, where a guy was on video doing something awful and there's zero doubt it was him, it saved taxpayers the expense of a trial.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    edited March 2019
    deltago wrote: »
    So that neonazi sympathizer who mowed down people with his car killing one at the unite the right rally in Charoletteville pleaded guilty to 29 charges of hate crimes.

    He struck a deal with the prosecution to avoid the death penalty. He is now sentenced to life in prison.

    I generally don't like the death penalty. I think we execute a lot of people we shouldn't - even one is probably too much. But we, as a society, kill all kinds that DNA could exonerate and people that just are too dumb and confessed because cops coerced them.

    That being said, having the death penalty here is one of the useful things about it - the only useful thing I think again because I don't agree with it in general. That the Charlottesville terrorist pled guity to avoid the death penalty is a benefit. No trial. That's about it for me. I can see this leading to wrongful convictions too as innocent people who think they will be railroaded could plea to charges to avoid the death penalty too. But in this very very specific case, where a guy was on video doing something awful and there's zero doubt it was him, it saved taxpayers the expense of a trial.

    Still, Devil's Island a'la Papillon sounds like a better idea than sitting in a tiny little cell for their whole life. Let them fend for themselves instead of taxpayers paying for their amenities...
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,964
    edited March 2019
    semiticgod wrote: »
    ..One of the most popular responses on Twitter to an Economic article that asked "Why Aren't Millennials Buying Diamonds?" was a simple tweet responding, "i work at a grocery store."

    Media commentary on millennials has frequently been condescending advice and blatant stereotyping, even in respectable media outlets like the New York Times. A lot of millennials are sensitive to the stereotypes, since they've heard them expressed so often.

    Lol, speaking of this trope @semiticgod have a laugh at this...
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    As a Gen Xer who works with Boomers that watch Fox, I have heard more than I'd care to from them jeering about millenials and "everyone gets a trophy" and "snowflakes" and stuff. Had several coworkers who really do internalize the narratives on Fox News and think all millenials are like that.

    To me when they say that stuff, it irritates me. I kind of feel sorry for them carrying around that ignorance and hate in their hearts but I realize that's just what they've been taught. But then I get irritated because they seem to think it's true without questioning it or being curious about the world and finding out the truth.
  • jjstraka34jjstraka34 Member Posts: 9,850
    edited March 2019
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    Speaking of anti-vax, anybody else hear about the wonderful governor of Kentucky who intentionally exposed his kids to chicken-pox instead of having them vaccinated. I wonder if he'll expose them to polio or smallpox to make them 'tougher' too. Dipshit...

    What he actually did was expose them to shingles 30 or 40 years down the road.
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    edited March 2019
    Trudeau now has a lower approval rating in Canada than Trump has in United States because of the SNC-Lavalin case.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5103763/trudeau-approval-rating-snc-lavalin-budget/

    And when Trudeau turns around and acts with elitism and smugness like he did here:

    https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/2019/03/28/trudeau-grassy-narrows-protester-thank-you-for-your-donation-liberals_a_23701818/?ncid=APPLENEWS00001

    He isn’t helping his numbers at all.

    I am not a huge fan of Scheer though. I feel like he is running against the liberals instead of running with his own ideas but it’s the default none-of-above choice on the ballot.
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  • ThacoBellThacoBell Member Posts: 12,235
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    ThacoBell wrote: »
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    ThacoBell wrote: »
    Balrog99 wrote: »
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    joluv wrote: »
    To be fair, NIH says 34.9% of 18- to 25-year-olds have used marijuana or hash in the last year, compared to 12.2% for 26 and up [source]. And in 2016, per the Census Bureau, "citizens 65 years and older reported higher turnout (70.9 percent) than 45- to 64-year-olds (66.6 percent), 30- to 44-year-olds (58.7 percent) and 18- to 29-year-olds (46.1 percent)" [source].

    I knew the statistics before I commented. I didn't pull the sarcasm completely out of my ass. You beat me to the punch-line @joluv !

    Yeah, nevermind that millenials are THE most productive generation in this country so far, we must all be pot smoking lazy good for nothings.

    That's up for debate. I'm not afraid to use the super-computer at my fingertips either and I'm not a millennial. I know many Gen-X'ers that haven't got a clue what they have at their disposal technology-wise so the point out there about Millennials being more plugged-in and techno-savvy has validity. However, working with, interviewing and training Millenials has shown me a few of their drawbacks as well. They seem to have no clue about working towards something, to the point where most interviewees are asking about management positions right out of college before they even demonstrate that they're skilled at what their being hired for. Their problem-solving skills are marginal at-best and trust me, your phone can't solve every problem. The most obvious thing I see is that they don't pick up after themselves! Hardly any of them. Im only talking about the Americans here. The interns we've gotten from Europe have been much better in regards to all of those points so it may just be a cultural thing.

    No, my comment is based on the actual statistics. You just seem determined to crap on an entire generation for zero reason whatsoever. Its just the same crap throwing I see in politics these days and I have zero tolerance for it.

    Didn't mean to offend you @ThacoBell . I like you and your unique viewpoints. I didn't even know you were a Millennial until you mentioned it. My sarcasm is never meant to insult, just a means of prodding people for their ideas. I find that getting people fired up is a good way to figure out how they really think. I can stoke up my Irish at will just to argue the most minor of points sometimes, and I do it to make people think and get insight into their point of view. That explains why I'm so popular with my family and friends...

    Having said that, I did manage to start an interesting discussion of generational differences. I just didnt realize folks would be so touchy about it. I find stereotypes amusing in that there are grains of truth in them even if they don't apply to everybody. I wouldn't take offense if anybody ripped on Gen-Xers but we seem to be relatively stereotype free for some reason.

    While I appreciate the clarification and the motive, the method seems like it creates issues.

    Sometimes, other times it leads to interesting conversations. It mostly depends on the state of mind of the person I'm engaging. Have you been harassed about the Millenial thing or maybe been teased about so much that you're sick of it? Just curiousity on my part, no need to answer if you don't want to...

    semiticgod covered it pretty well. I've been hearing for years (in person, from news articles, on tv...) how lazy I must be and how I have work ethic, are stupid, etc. simply bacuse I was born in the latter half of a certain decade. All my patience for it flew away long ago.

    jjstraka34 wrote: »
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    Speaking of anti-vax, anybody else hear about the wonderful governor of Kentucky who intentionally exposed his kids to chicken-pox instead of having them vaccinated. I wonder if he'll expose them to polio or smallpox to make them 'tougher' too. Dipshit...

    What he actually did was expose them to shingles 30 or 40 years down the road.

    Well, 20 years ago, the "common knowledge" was that if your kids didn't catch chicken pox early, they would get shingles later. My mom exposed me to chicken pox on purpose too. It was common back then.
  • GundanRTOGundanRTO Member Posts: 81
    deltago wrote: »
    Trudeau now has a lower approval rating in Canada than Trump has in United States because of the SNC-Lavalin case.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5103763/trudeau-approval-rating-snc-lavalin-budget/

    I am not a huge fan of Scheer though. I feel like he is running against the liberals instead of running with his own ideas but it’s the default none-of-above choice on the ballot.

    Scheer's a social conservative with ties to Rebel News; his ideas, therefore, are likely to make a lot of Canadians awfully uncomfortable. If the Liberals are smart, they'll make the upcoming campaign about those ideas and possible galvanize enough support from the Maritimes and Quebec to scrounge a minority government.
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    I wasn't aware that willing exposure to chicken pox was the worse idea; I thought it was still the preferred option. I wasn't aware that a vaccine had been created--maybe because it looks like it was in 1995, and I might have gotten the chickenpox before then or only slightly after.
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    Give credit when it is due:

    Trump’s ban on bump stocks was upheld as the Supreme Court rejected a request to delay the ban.

    It is a tiny step compared to New Zealand’s reaction, but it is a step in the right direction.
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    Wouldn't common sense tell you willing exposure to disease probably isn't the best idea
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,964
    edited March 2019
    FinneousPJ wrote: »
    Wouldn't common sense tell you willing exposure to disease probably isn't the best idea

    I think the idea is to get the body to immunize itself because, if you survive, after exposure you develop a natural immunity.

    That being said, vaccines are the way to go because that's what they do. They give you a taste of a disease so your body can kill it (the weakened version) and develop you immune system so that it sees the same disease later it should remember how to kill it. I don't know how my immune system has a better memory than me but I guess it do be like that.
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    "Willing exposure to disease" is basically the definition of a vaccine. Dating back to 1796, the idea has been to expose someone to a weakened variant of a disease so their immune system will adjust and be better prepared to respond to the stronger version. Common sense or no, it's the basis of a practice that's saved millions of lives over the past 200 years.

    I've heard of people willingly exposing their kids to chickenpox using the same logic, but whatever the efficacy of that method, the vaccine made that obsolete, and the "pox party" thing eventually died out at some point during my lifetime. I got the chickenpox by accident along with my brother, so I'm guessing that was before 1995. I do know I was really, really small when I got it.
  • ThacoBellThacoBell Member Posts: 12,235
    I still remember my "pox party". My mom invited another family over so that we could get the chicken pox done with at the same time. Its 3 sad and itchy kids standing around in our underwear.
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    semiticgod wrote: »
    I wasn't aware that willing exposure to chicken pox was the worse idea; I thought it was still the preferred option. I wasn't aware that a vaccine had been created--maybe because it looks like it was in 1995, and I might have gotten the chickenpox before then or only slightly after.

    Actually, the vaccine was created in japan in the 70s. It just took the US 20 years to give it the OK.

    Chicken Pox is also worse if you get it as an adult, hence the old ritual of pox parties before kids turned 10.
  • TakisMegasTakisMegas Member Posts: 835
    FinneousPJ wrote: »

    We have a Certified Dietitian in the family. He's been saying for years that a Vegan diet is the worst thing you can do to your body. Especially if you are a young woman.
  • joluvjoluv Member Posts: 2,137
    He sounds very confused.
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    It's possible to have a healthy diet that's vegan. You just have to put a little more thought into what you eat. Protein is surprisingly easy to get if you just steer clear of the sugary stuff. The real issue is B12--if you don't eat the right foods, you'd have to take B12 supplements to get it.

    It really depends on the kind of stuff you eat. Even omnivores get a huge portion of their calories from vegan sources (ever had a PBJ for lunch?), and there are a LOT of different edible plants. A vegan diet doesn't just mean bananas and tofu.

    My problem is I'm too lazy to boil broccoli. My brother says I'm a terrible vegetarian because I love meat and hate vegetables. But grains and fruit are delicious, and goat cheese fills in a lot of the rest.
  • TakisMegasTakisMegas Member Posts: 835
    semiticgod wrote: »
    It's possible to have a healthy diet that's vegan. You just have to put a little more thought into what you eat. Protein is surprisingly easy to get if you just steer clear of the sugary stuff. The real issue is B12--if you don't eat the right foods, you'd have to take B12 supplements to get it.

    It really depends on the kind of stuff you eat. Even omnivores get a huge portion of their calories from vegan sources (ever had a PBJ for lunch?), and there are a LOT of different edible plants. A vegan diet doesn't just mean bananas and tofu.

    My problem is I'm too lazy to boil broccoli. My brother says I'm a terrible vegetarian because I love meat and hate vegetables. But grains and fruit are delicious, and goat cheese fills in a lot of the rest.

    Steamed broccoli is much better for you.
  • joluvjoluv Member Posts: 2,137
    And so easy!
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  • TakisMegasTakisMegas Member Posts: 835

    I like it raw also. Depends on what else my wife and I are preparing to eat.
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