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  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,964
    Yeah no Rubio is wrong and another yes man idiot.

    If you watch the Trump quote about begging China to investigate his American politicial opponent it's quite clear he's very serious.

    It's totally disgusting that Trump's lawlessness and lies are constantly excused by the cowardly Republican party as jokes or he didn't mean it and if he did you didn't understand it and if you did the Democrats did worse. It's all a bunch of Republican lies.


    Lindsey Graham seems real upset that Trump left our Kurdish allies to get slaughtered by Turkey right? Well, he was lying of course.

    Some Russian pranksters called him and pretended to be Turkeys defense minister and he happily threw the Kurds under the bus.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/10/lindsey-graham-trump-hoax-call-043991

    Graham bad-mouthed the same Kurdish allies he's accused President Donald Trump of betraying.

    - "Your YPG Kurdish problem is a big problem.”

    - "I told President Trump that Obama made a huge mistake in relying on the YPG Kurds," Graham continued. "Everything I worried about has come true, and now we have to make sure Turkey is protected from this threat in Syria. I'm sympathetic to the YPG problem, and so is the President, quite frankly."

    -This was not the first time that Lexus and Vovan had pranked Graham. They had fooled him two years ago, posing as a Ukrainian official.
  • jjstraka34jjstraka34 Member Posts: 9,850
    edited October 2019
    I figured it would take at least a month before two guys who look like extras in an Eastern-European gangster movie attempted to the flee the country on a one way ticket to Vienna hours after meeting with the President's lawyer.
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,964
    I have zero faith in the legal system with Barr involved. He's a Republican politician.

    So Rudy meets with his confederates, then they attempt to flee the country and get picked up by federal agents.

    Barr had to have told Guliani this would happen. Guiliani either tried to warn his criminal buddies in uh "good faith" or he has set them up to take the fall for him. Because now that they are in federal custody, Barr will have access to the evidence they might have against Guliani and Trump.
  • jjstraka34jjstraka34 Member Posts: 9,850
    edited October 2019
    If this doesn't make it crystal clear, I don't know what else does. The only thing dictating military troop movements at this point is how much money is funneling into Trump's properties from Turkey and Saudi Arabia. You want American military back-up?? Purchase a couple floors at Trump Tower:


    That's THOUSANDS of extra troops. Exponentially more than were moved out of Northern Syria. The CLEAR excuse for what was done in Syria was getting US troops out of the Middle East. Is ANYONE going to deny that that was the narrative?? Abandon the only people over there who don't hate our guts, but have the back of the worst regime in the region and the country where 15 of the 19 hijackers came from. Maybe if they dismember another journalist we'll send them 10,000 troops.
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    jjstraka34 wrote: »
    If this doesn't make it crystal clear, I don't know what else does. The only thing dictating military troop movements at this point is how much money is funneling into Trump's properties from Turkey and Saudi Arabia. You want American military back-up?? Purchase a couple floors at Trump Tower:


    They’re connected, but not in the way you are suggesting here.

    Giving Turkey the go-ahead and arming the Saudi’s is an attempt to push Iran to attack first without using them using a proxy.

    If Iran goes after Turkey, as they threatened after the pull out and prior to the invasion, the Trump Administration can say that they attacked a NATO member and are now deploying troops to combat against the Iran aggression as the treaty says they must.

    Same play with Saudi, but it’ll be “to protect our interests and trading partner,” much like the excuse against Iraq in the first Gulf War after Iraq attacked Qatar.

    They’re just poking at Iran to attack.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    deltago wrote: »
    jjstraka34 wrote: »
    If this doesn't make it crystal clear, I don't know what else does. The only thing dictating military troop movements at this point is how much money is funneling into Trump's properties from Turkey and Saudi Arabia. You want American military back-up?? Purchase a couple floors at Trump Tower:


    They’re connected, but not in the way you are suggesting here.

    Giving Turkey the go-ahead and arming the Saudi’s is an attempt to push Iran to attack first without using them using a proxy.

    If Iran goes after Turkey, as they threatened after the pull out and prior to the invasion, the Trump Administration can say that they attacked a NATO member and are now deploying troops to combat against the Iran aggression as the treaty says they must.

    Same play with Saudi, but it’ll be “to protect our interests and trading partner,” much like the excuse against Iraq in the first Gulf War after Iraq attacked Qatar.

    They’re just poking at Iran to attack.

    Iraq attacked Kuwait, not Qatar.
  • jjstraka34jjstraka34 Member Posts: 9,850
    Well this certainly seems to be an interesting coincidence. Less than 48 hours after Bill Barr meets with Rupert Murdoch at his home, Shepard Smith, the only legitimately fair on-air personality at FOX News, is leaving the network. He's been holding down that afternoon slot since I was in high school.
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,964
    edited October 2019
    jjstraka34 wrote: »
    Well this certainly seems to be an interesting coincidence. Less than 48 hours after Bill Barr meets with Rupert Murdoch at his home, Shepard Smith, the only legitimately fair on-air personality at FOX News, is leaving the network. He's been holding down that afternoon slot since I was in high school.

    "Fox News isn't working for Trump anymore!"

    As if a so called 'news' station is supposed to support one guy. It's not a coup either if you remove one guy for criminal acts from the government but leave the rest unless your government is a dictatorship.
  • VerticorVerticor Member Posts: 119
    TakisMegas wrote: »
    I cancelled my sub after I saw the Blizzard China "Protect our Country" post. Shady.

    Well, from what I was told, the ones managing that particular Hearthstone account in question aren't directly employed by Blizzard. Merely outsourced.

    Then again, even if that is in fact the case, Blizzard's absolute silence on that particular apology might as well be conscrued as blatant approval, right?
  • VerticorVerticor Member Posts: 119
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    Me trying to keep track of everything going on in the world now...

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  • jjstraka34jjstraka34 Member Posts: 9,850
    edited October 2019
    Verticor wrote: »
    TakisMegas wrote: »
    I cancelled my sub after I saw the Blizzard China "Protect our Country" post. Shady.

    Well, from what I was told, the ones managing that particular Hearthstone account in question aren't directly employed by Blizzard. Merely outsourced.

    Then again, even if that is in fact the case, Blizzard's absolute silence on that particular apology might as well be conscrued as blatant approval, right?

    I'm not sure what else there is to say. If there is one issue China will broach absolutely no dissent on, it's Hong Kong. The Chinese market for Blizzard is worth billions upon billions of dollars, mostly through microtransactions. It's no secret to anyone why this happened. It's about cold hard cash. Same thing is happening right now in the NBA. I'd like to think the old Blizzard before Activision would have acted differently, and a handful of employees staged a walk-out, but it is what it is. China is the most populous place on Earth. Corporations are soulless. The math does itself on this one. Whether this effects them in any material way domestically, well, I have my doubts. People care this week. There is talk they might have trouble with protesters at Blizzcon. We'll see I guess. It's just as likely the whole incident get disappeared down the memory hole by then.
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    Turkey has allegedly bombed US troops by mistake inn Syria. The US should come down hard and quickly on them for that, but figuring they don't even have the sanctions they threatened in place yet, I doubt they can or will.

    Only one spineless wannabe dictator to blame for the situation though IMO.
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,964
    deltago wrote: »
    Turkey has allegedly bombed US troops by mistake inn Syria. The US should come down hard and quickly on them for that, but figuring they don't even have the sanctions they threatened in place yet, I doubt they can or will.

    Only one spineless wannabe dictator to blame for the situation though IMO.

    Why not both?
  • VerticorVerticor Member Posts: 119
    jjstraka34 wrote: »
    I'm not sure what else there is to say. If there is one issue China will broach absolutely no dissent on, it's Hong Kong. The Chinese market for Blizzard is worth billions upon billions of dollars, mostly through microtransactions. It's no secret to anyone why this happened. It's about cold hard cash. Same thing is happening right now in the NBA. I'd like to think the old Blizzard before Activision would have acted differently, and a handful of employees staged a walk-out, but it is what it is. China is the most populous place on Earth. Corporations are soulless. The math does itself on this one. Whether this effects them in any material way domestically, well, I have my doubts. People care this week. There is talk they might have trouble with protesters at Blizzcon. We'll see I guess. It's just as likely the whole incident get disappeared down the memory hole by then.

    Perhaps. Then again, the people in charge at the corporate HQ can't really disappear the fact, that Activision Blizzard's stock plummeted from 80 to roughly 50 within weeks of Blizzcon 2018 and have been hovering around that figure ever since, down a hole.
  • VerticorVerticor Member Posts: 119
    And another thing: What Blizzard was compared to today... well, I believe it was the team lead of Diablo II who said that if anyone in charge of any development team had pulled the same shit as the presentation of Diablo: Immortal in his time at Blizzard, 100 devs would have been lined up outside that team lead's office ready to give him/her a piece of their mind.
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    deltago wrote: »
    Turkey has allegedly bombed US troops by mistake inn Syria. The US should come down hard and quickly on them for that, but figuring they don't even have the sanctions they threatened in place yet, I doubt they can or will.

    Only one spineless wannabe dictator to blame for the situation though IMO.

    Why not both?

    Because if Trump didn't move the troops, Turkey would not have attacked. The only reason why Turkey didn't do this years ago was due to US being in the area.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    Observation:

    In order to e-mail my congresswoman the other night I had to subject myself to honestly, FOUR, of those idiotic "I'm not a robot", "Find the traffic light", bullshit security checks. At my age my eyes still haven't recovered from squinting to see if tile 6 has a tiny traffic light hidden in the background. Strangely, neither Senator had any security whatsoever on their websites. I wonder if Senators bother to even have anybody check their e-mail?

    I think I'll use snail-mail from now on if I'm pissed off enough to contact my representatives. It's hard to write on paper anymore though. Sigh...
  • jjstraka34jjstraka34 Member Posts: 9,850
    edited October 2019
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    Observation:

    In order to e-mail my congresswoman the other night I had to subject myself to honestly, FOUR, of those idiotic "I'm not a robot", "Find the traffic light", bullshit security checks. At my age my eyes still haven't recovered from squinting to see if tile 6 has a tiny traffic light hidden in the background. Strangely, neither Senator had any security whatsoever on their websites. I wonder if Senators bother to even have anybody check their e-mail?

    I think I'll use snail-mail from now on if I'm pissed off enough to contact my representatives. It's hard to write on paper anymore though. Sigh...

    I've heard numerous staffers say a written letter holds more weight than a 1000 phone calls or emails. In a way, antiquated, but my guess is they figure someone who is willing to take the time to send a letter in the mail is far more likely to actually vote. So if you want your voice heard, strange as it seems, most Representatives and Senators take mailed letters far more seriously. Or at least their staff does.
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    jjstraka34 wrote: »
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    Observation:

    In order to e-mail my congresswoman the other night I had to subject myself to honestly, FOUR, of those idiotic "I'm not a robot", "Find the traffic light", bullshit security checks. At my age my eyes still haven't recovered from squinting to see if tile 6 has a tiny traffic light hidden in the background. Strangely, neither Senator had any security whatsoever on their websites. I wonder if Senators bother to even have anybody check their e-mail?

    I think I'll use snail-mail from now on if I'm pissed off enough to contact my representatives. It's hard to write on paper anymore though. Sigh...

    I've heard numerous staffers say a written letter holds more weight than a 1000 phone calls or emails.

    That is because written letters aren't copy pasta from some site saying "take action, email your rep this: BSBSBSBS."

    As well, letters can be traced back to the post office that received them. Emails, not so much.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    deltago wrote: »
    jjstraka34 wrote: »
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    Observation:

    In order to e-mail my congresswoman the other night I had to subject myself to honestly, FOUR, of those idiotic "I'm not a robot", "Find the traffic light", bullshit security checks. At my age my eyes still haven't recovered from squinting to see if tile 6 has a tiny traffic light hidden in the background. Strangely, neither Senator had any security whatsoever on their websites. I wonder if Senators bother to even have anybody check their e-mail?

    I think I'll use snail-mail from now on if I'm pissed off enough to contact my representatives. It's hard to write on paper anymore though. Sigh...

    I've heard numerous staffers say a written letter holds more weight than a 1000 phone calls or emails.

    That is because written letters aren't copy pasta from some site saying "take action, email your rep this: BSBSBSBS."

    As well, letters can be traced back to the post office that received them. Emails, not so much.

    I tried to make it real (not a Lego form-letter) but I fear you and @jjstraka34 are right. By the time I actually find paper, a pen that actually works, an envelope and a stamp I've usually cooled down enough to not want to bother anymore. Sad but true...
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    jjstraka34 wrote: »
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    Observation:

    In order to e-mail my congresswoman the other night I had to subject myself to honestly, FOUR, of those idiotic "I'm not a robot", "Find the traffic light", bullshit security checks. At my age my eyes still haven't recovered from squinting to see if tile 6 has a tiny traffic light hidden in the background. Strangely, neither Senator had any security whatsoever on their websites. I wonder if Senators bother to even have anybody check their e-mail?

    I think I'll use snail-mail from now on if I'm pissed off enough to contact my representatives. It's hard to write on paper anymore though. Sigh...

    I've heard numerous staffers say a written letter holds more weight than a 1000 phone calls or emails. In a way, antiquated, but my guess is they figure someone who is willing to take the time to send a letter in the mail is far more likely to actually vote. So if you want your voice heard, strange as it seems, most Representatives and Senators take mailed letters far more seriously. Or at least their staff does.

    I assume you mean hand-written in probably 'gasp' cursive? A printed letter could still just be a form letter with a stamp on it.
  • jjstraka34jjstraka34 Member Posts: 9,850
    edited October 2019
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    jjstraka34 wrote: »
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    Observation:

    In order to e-mail my congresswoman the other night I had to subject myself to honestly, FOUR, of those idiotic "I'm not a robot", "Find the traffic light", bullshit security checks. At my age my eyes still haven't recovered from squinting to see if tile 6 has a tiny traffic light hidden in the background. Strangely, neither Senator had any security whatsoever on their websites. I wonder if Senators bother to even have anybody check their e-mail?

    I think I'll use snail-mail from now on if I'm pissed off enough to contact my representatives. It's hard to write on paper anymore though. Sigh...

    I've heard numerous staffers say a written letter holds more weight than a 1000 phone calls or emails. In a way, antiquated, but my guess is they figure someone who is willing to take the time to send a letter in the mail is far more likely to actually vote. So if you want your voice heard, strange as it seems, most Representatives and Senators take mailed letters far more seriously. Or at least their staff does.

    I assume you mean hand-written in probably 'gasp' cursive? A printed letter could still just be a form letter with a stamp on it.

    As someone who sends dozens of emails that are scripted (for the most part) a day, I think a typed letter sent in the mail in your own "voice" would still be distinguishable.

    It's also my experience that most people can't even form a proper sentence, much less a paragraph. If you have mastery of those concepts, from my anecdotal experience you are ahead of well over half the population.
  • jjstraka34jjstraka34 Member Posts: 9,850
    edited October 2019
    deltago wrote: »
    deltago wrote: »
    Turkey has allegedly bombed US troops by mistake inn Syria. The US should come down hard and quickly on them for that, but figuring they don't even have the sanctions they threatened in place yet, I doubt they can or will.

    Only one spineless wannabe dictator to blame for the situation though IMO.

    Why not both?

    Because if Trump didn't move the troops, Turkey would not have attacked. The only reason why Turkey didn't do this years ago was due to US being in the area.

    The troop move was token at best, window-dressing on what really took place. Trump and Erdogan got on the phone, and Trump gave him the ok to move. The fact that they have targeted US troops ANYWAY (when one would have to imagine they certainly know our coordinates) signifies that Erdogan fears no repercussions whatsoever. And such a situation (where an ostensible NATO ally is now bombing our troops) is roughly 10,000x more of scandal given how this played out than even the most paranoid fantasies about Benghazi. Kurds betrayed, ISIS fighters staging a massive prison break in the chaos (a successful one) and our own troops getting shelled anyway. This is a Bay of Pigs level fuck-up.
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,964
    edited October 2019
    Elizabeth Warren is buying ads on Facebook that falsely claim Mark Zuckerberg has endorsed President Donald Trump.

    She is doing this to showcase that ads posted by politicians need to be fact-checked.

    Love it, we're not powerless against the liar in Chief and his cronies.

    Maybe in order to defeat fake news from the President and lying Conservatives, you must become fake news. Do one that that claims Trump wants open borders, gay marriage and hates religious freedom and watch conservative snowflakes melt.

    She's not willing to go that far obviously. Trump is, just watch any of his speeches or rallies and you'll see how far he's willing to go to invent lies.
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    I'd rather not have folks pulling that kind of stunt. Unless it comes with a specific statement indicating the true purpose, more people will be fooled by that kind of ad than will realize "that ad is so fake that we need to pass a law to restrict fake ads."

    I don't see why we need paid political ads in the first place.
  • jjstraka34jjstraka34 Member Posts: 9,850
    edited October 2019
    semiticgod wrote: »
    I'd rather not have folks pulling that kind of stunt. Unless it comes with a specific statement indicating the true purpose, more people will be fooled by that kind of ad than will realize "that ad is so fake that we need to pass a law to restrict fake ads."

    I don't see why we need paid political ads in the first place.

    I've seen it and it has a disclaimer by the second paragraph, and it's made ABUNDANTLY clear why she is doing it. She is also on record numerous times in the past year saying she has no intention of continuing to play on this tilted playing field without firing back. And being as the left basically totally ceded Facebook to right-wing and Russia propaganda in 2016, it's a field worth fighting on. If Facebook didn't swing 70,000 voters in 3 states last time, I'll eat my hat. The idea that sound policy positions are going to be what defeats Trump is a pipe-dream. I mean, Republicans will literally run as being the party in favor of protecting pre-existing conditions at the same time they are in court trying to abolish the entire ACA. Or as the ones ending "foreign wars" while (based on Trump's own statements yesterday) seemingly hiring out American soldiers as mercenaries to Saudi Arabia. At the very least, Elizabeth Warren doesn't have any doubt about what she's up against. And I'm 100% sure having Mark Zuckerberg as an enemy is good politics.
    Post edited by jjstraka34 on
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,964
    In effect, and by bowing to conservative tears about "anti-conservative bias" (which is really just working the refs) it's totally true the Zuckerberg does prefer Donald Trump over Elizabeth Warren.

    That and the leaked audio of Zuckerberg crying over a potential Warren administration.
  • TakisMegasTakisMegas Member Posts: 835
    edited October 2019
    Elizabeth Warren is buying ads on Facebook that falsely claim Mark Zuckerberg has endorsed President Donald Trump.

    She is doing this to showcase that ads posted by politicians need to be fact-checked.

    Love it, we're not powerless against the liar in Chief and his cronies.

    Maybe in order to defeat fake news from the President and lying Conservatives, you must become fake news. Do one that that claims Trump wants open borders, gay marriage and hates religious freedom and watch conservative snowflakes melt.

    She's not willing to go that far obviously. Trump is, just watch any of his speeches or rallies and you'll see how far he's willing to go to invent lies.

    So to defeat a Sith you must become Sith yourself? I'd rather run Solo.
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