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  • LadyRhianLadyRhian Member Posts: 14,694
    ThacoBell said:

    Balrog99 said:

    Republicans are masters at winning elections. They are incompetent clowns once they get in power.

    Because the Carter, Clinton and Obama years were flawlessly executed masterful examples of Democrat superiority. I certainly recall fondly how well the government worked in those years...
    Certainly better in some ways. Democratic presidencies have had the strongest economies in the last 30 years, and Obama is the only reason I or my family had healthcare for 7 years.
    Clinton left with a surplus, not deficit in the budget. Name me a Republican President is the time between Carter and now...

    https://www.thebalance.com/deficit-by-president-what-budget-deficits-hide-3306151

    https://www.thebalance.com/trump-vs-obama-economic-policies-4142333

    Trump, even if he doesn't add to the deficit in the next two years, has increased the deficit as much as Obama did in 8 years.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371

    Balrog99 said:

    Balrog99 said:

    LadyRhian said:

    I feel Kavanaugh's behavior here is also disqualifying. I mean, the way he goes from raging to crying...? I don't want a robot on the Supreme Court. An adult, however, would be nice. I didn't like his smirk in earlier testimony, either.

    But, that's just me. Similar to my problems with Trump, I want actual adults in power, not screaming, crying manbabies.

    But I thought it was OK for men to show their feelings now.
    It's okay to show feelings - unless they make you look like a lunatic. If he'd stuck to onething like the crying that'd be fine but the seasawing around isn't great.

    Wasn't the lady from AZ brought to question both Kav and Ford? Then all the Republicans didn't let her question Kav only Ford. Bunch of lying scumbags.
    Arizona lady was completely useless. I'm sure it was our tax money that paid for her services too. More of my money well spent...
    Everyone knows the Republican Senators were hiding behind her. It was shameful. They should of at least had the balls to do their job and have the courage of their convictions.
    Agreed. I'd still be fighting for Kavanaugh if he'd just manned up about the drinking. Now I'm just going to say, "Next"!
  • jjstraka34jjstraka34 Member Posts: 9,850
    edited September 2018
    I'd like to point out now that I am home something I am noticing, which is just how frail and weak (physically) Professor Ford looked. She is clearly a woman who has been through a nightmare in the last week. I just don't know how anyone can think she made this up. She was clearly terrified to be testifying.
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    I really didn't expect the hearing to go like this. For one thing, I thought the Democratic senators would have been much more harsh to Kavanaugh (even the language they used was very soft; not just the tone), and Rachel Mitchell would have been much harsher to Dr. Ford. Most of the questioning was pretty mild, though the Republican senators made a point of loudly decrying the unfairness of... well, actually just asking Kavanaugh about the allegations, whenever they had time to speak.

    I also didn't expect Ford to betray so much emotion, and I certainly didn't expect Kavanaugh to show so much anger or start crying midway through the process. He was visibly distressed the whole time and kept trying to talk over his questioners, desperate to change the subject (did you notice him asking his questioners about their favorite drinks?) to take the pressure off.

    The questions were very mild, and Kavanaugh was still struggling to control his emotions.
  • jjstraka34jjstraka34 Member Posts: 9,850
    edited September 2018

    I really didn't expect the hearing to go like this. For one thing, I thought the Democratic senators would have been much more harsh to Kavanaugh (even the language they used was very soft; not just the tone), and Rachel Mitchell would have been much harsher to Dr. Ford. Most of the questioning was pretty mild, though the Republican senators made a point of loudly decrying the unfairness of... well, actually just asking Kavanaugh about the allegations, whenever they had time to speak.

    I also didn't expect Ford to betray so much emotion, and I certainly didn't expect Kavanaugh to show so much anger or start crying midway through the process. He was visibly distressed the whole time and kept trying to talk over his questioners, desperate to change the subject (did you notice him asking his questioners about their favorite drinks?) to take the pressure off.

    The questions were very mild, and Kavanaugh was still struggling to control his emotions.

    Not for nothing, but I have read more than one anecdotal account on Twitter in the last couple hours from sexual assault survivors that when they confronted their assaulter, they acted exactly like Kavanaugh did. With anger and tears.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    LadyRhian said:

    ThacoBell said:

    Balrog99 said:

    Republicans are masters at winning elections. They are incompetent clowns once they get in power.

    Because the Carter, Clinton and Obama years were flawlessly executed masterful examples of Democrat superiority. I certainly recall fondly how well the government worked in those years...
    Certainly better in some ways. Democratic presidencies have had the strongest economies in the last 30 years, and Obama is the only reason I or my family had healthcare for 7 years.
    Clinton left with a surplus, not deficit in the budget. Name me a Republican President is the time between Carter and now...

    https://www.thebalance.com/deficit-by-president-what-budget-deficits-hide-3306151

    https://www.thebalance.com/trump-vs-obama-economic-policies-4142333

    Trump, even if he doesn't add to the deficit in the next two years, has increased the deficit as much as Obama did in 8 years.
    Presidents don't add or subtract from the deficit. Only Congress can do that via laws and/or the budget. The President signs or vetoes laws but can try to steer Congress to see things his/her way. Congress was Republican during most of Clinton's and Obama's presidencies. Democrats were in charge during Reagan's presidency (only the House for most of that time though), Bush Sr's presidency and much of Bush's 2nd term.
  • LadyRhianLadyRhian Member Posts: 14,694
    Balrog99 said:

    LadyRhian said:

    I am wondering why, if someone was not guilty, they would object to being investigated by the FBI. Wouldn't you embrace this as something that could possibly clear you? Unless he's afraid that they are going to find something...

    That's what really gives me pause here. More than just the number of believable people stepping forward to talk about Brett Kavanaugh. The fact that his accusers welcome investigation, and Kavanaugh does not. To me, there seems to be something not right about that.

    It could very well be that he's afraid (as are most Republicans) that a delay may see the R's lose the Senate and any chance of him getting in. FBI investigations aren't known for their speed.
    The Anita Hill Investigation took 3 days. Even if we say 5 days per woman. that's only 20 days.
  • ThacoBellThacoBell Member Posts: 12,235
    Balrog99 said:

    LadyRhian said:

    ThacoBell said:

    Balrog99 said:

    Republicans are masters at winning elections. They are incompetent clowns once they get in power.

    Because the Carter, Clinton and Obama years were flawlessly executed masterful examples of Democrat superiority. I certainly recall fondly how well the government worked in those years...
    Certainly better in some ways. Democratic presidencies have had the strongest economies in the last 30 years, and Obama is the only reason I or my family had healthcare for 7 years.
    Clinton left with a surplus, not deficit in the budget. Name me a Republican President is the time between Carter and now...

    https://www.thebalance.com/deficit-by-president-what-budget-deficits-hide-3306151

    https://www.thebalance.com/trump-vs-obama-economic-policies-4142333

    Trump, even if he doesn't add to the deficit in the next two years, has increased the deficit as much as Obama did in 8 years.
    Presidents don't add or subtract from the deficit. Only Congress can do that via laws and/or the budget. The President signs or vetoes laws but can try to steer Congress to see things his/her way. Congress was Republican during most of Clinton's and Obama's presidencies. Democrats were in charge during Reagan's presidency (only the House for most of that time though), Bush Sr's presidency and much of Bush's 2nd term.
    You'd think the economy would fluctuate less with each presidency then.
  • jjstraka34jjstraka34 Member Posts: 9,850
    LadyRhian said:

    Balrog99 said:

    LadyRhian said:

    I am wondering why, if someone was not guilty, they would object to being investigated by the FBI. Wouldn't you embrace this as something that could possibly clear you? Unless he's afraid that they are going to find something...

    That's what really gives me pause here. More than just the number of believable people stepping forward to talk about Brett Kavanaugh. The fact that his accusers welcome investigation, and Kavanaugh does not. To me, there seems to be something not right about that.

    It could very well be that he's afraid (as are most Republicans) that a delay may see the R's lose the Senate and any chance of him getting in. FBI investigations aren't known for their speed.
    The Anita Hill Investigation took 3 days. Even if we say 5 days per woman. that's only 20 days.
    Even if we hypothetically assume that the Democrats DO take the Senate (and 538 only has that at a 1/3 chance at this point), and somehow they DON'T get a nominee through before November, people are delusional if they think McConnell won't ram through Trump's nominee in the lame duck, despite the fact that that would be another unprecedented power play. Trump could dump this guy and nominate any one of a dozen other Federalist Society judges who will make the exact same rulings. Why they aren't is a deeper mystery, but it is one worth answering, but I believe it is just flat-out ingrained misogyny on one hand and the fact that Kavanaugh MUST have promised Trump something on how he'd rule on Executive Power if Mueller comes knocking.
  • LadyRhianLadyRhian Member Posts: 14,694
    Balrog99 said:

    LadyRhian said:

    ThacoBell said:

    Balrog99 said:

    Republicans are masters at winning elections. They are incompetent clowns once they get in power.

    Because the Carter, Clinton and Obama years were flawlessly executed masterful examples of Democrat superiority. I certainly recall fondly how well the government worked in those years...
    Certainly better in some ways. Democratic presidencies have had the strongest economies in the last 30 years, and Obama is the only reason I or my family had healthcare for 7 years.
    Clinton left with a surplus, not deficit in the budget. Name me a Republican President is the time between Carter and now...

    https://www.thebalance.com/deficit-by-president-what-budget-deficits-hide-3306151

    https://www.thebalance.com/trump-vs-obama-economic-policies-4142333

    Trump, even if he doesn't add to the deficit in the next two years, has increased the deficit as much as Obama did in 8 years.
    Presidents don't add or subtract from the deficit. Only Congress can do that via laws and/or the budget. The President signs or vetoes laws but can try to steer Congress to see things his/her way. Congress was Republican during most of Clinton's and Obama's presidencies. Democrats were in charge during Reagan's presidency (only the House for most of that time though), Bush Sr's presidency and much of Bush's 2nd term.
    And the entire government has been controlled by the Republicans since Trump has been in office.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    ThacoBell said:

    Balrog99 said:

    LadyRhian said:

    ThacoBell said:

    Balrog99 said:

    Republicans are masters at winning elections. They are incompetent clowns once they get in power.

    Because the Carter, Clinton and Obama years were flawlessly executed masterful examples of Democrat superiority. I certainly recall fondly how well the government worked in those years...
    Certainly better in some ways. Democratic presidencies have had the strongest economies in the last 30 years, and Obama is the only reason I or my family had healthcare for 7 years.
    Clinton left with a surplus, not deficit in the budget. Name me a Republican President is the time between Carter and now...

    https://www.thebalance.com/deficit-by-president-what-budget-deficits-hide-3306151

    https://www.thebalance.com/trump-vs-obama-economic-policies-4142333

    Trump, even if he doesn't add to the deficit in the next two years, has increased the deficit as much as Obama did in 8 years.
    Presidents don't add or subtract from the deficit. Only Congress can do that via laws and/or the budget. The President signs or vetoes laws but can try to steer Congress to see things his/her way. Congress was Republican during most of Clinton's and Obama's presidencies. Democrats were in charge during Reagan's presidency (only the House for most of that time though), Bush Sr's presidency and much of Bush's 2nd term.
    You'd think the economy would fluctuate less with each presidency then.
    Congress does exactly what they want to. The President takes the credit or blame because that seems to be part of the role now. Don't think for a minute that the deficit is due to one party. It hasn't gotten better in half a century. Even when the budget is 'balanced' the debt doesn't go down. I thought Trump might snake things up but it seems like it's just more of the same.

    Hah, I meant 'shake' things up but I'm just going to leave that hilarious auto-correct!
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371

    LadyRhian said:

    Balrog99 said:

    LadyRhian said:

    I am wondering why, if someone was not guilty, they would object to being investigated by the FBI. Wouldn't you embrace this as something that could possibly clear you? Unless he's afraid that they are going to find something...

    That's what really gives me pause here. More than just the number of believable people stepping forward to talk about Brett Kavanaugh. The fact that his accusers welcome investigation, and Kavanaugh does not. To me, there seems to be something not right about that.

    It could very well be that he's afraid (as are most Republicans) that a delay may see the R's lose the Senate and any chance of him getting in. FBI investigations aren't known for their speed.
    The Anita Hill Investigation took 3 days. Even if we say 5 days per woman. that's only 20 days.
    Even if we hypothetically assume that the Democrats DO take the Senate (and 538 only has that at a 1/3 chance at this point), and somehow they DON'T get a nominee through before November, people are delusional if they think McConnell won't ram through Trump's nominee in the lame duck, despite the fact that that would be another unprecedented power play. Trump could dump this guy and nominate any one of a dozen other Federalist Society judges who will make the exact same rulings. Why they aren't is a deeper mystery, but it is one worth answering, but I believe it is just flat-out ingrained misogyny on one hand and the fact that Kavanaugh MUST have promised Trump something on how he'd rule on Executive Power if Mueller comes knocking.
    This is the guy the Republicans have been grooming for years. For once, Trump gave them what they wanted and it blew up in his face. Oh the irony!
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    LadyRhian said:

    Balrog99 said:

    LadyRhian said:

    ThacoBell said:

    Balrog99 said:

    Republicans are masters at winning elections. They are incompetent clowns once they get in power.

    Because the Carter, Clinton and Obama years were flawlessly executed masterful examples of Democrat superiority. I certainly recall fondly how well the government worked in those years...
    Certainly better in some ways. Democratic presidencies have had the strongest economies in the last 30 years, and Obama is the only reason I or my family had healthcare for 7 years.
    Clinton left with a surplus, not deficit in the budget. Name me a Republican President is the time between Carter and now...

    https://www.thebalance.com/deficit-by-president-what-budget-deficits-hide-3306151

    https://www.thebalance.com/trump-vs-obama-economic-policies-4142333

    Trump, even if he doesn't add to the deficit in the next two years, has increased the deficit as much as Obama did in 8 years.
    Presidents don't add or subtract from the deficit. Only Congress can do that via laws and/or the budget. The President signs or vetoes laws but can try to steer Congress to see things his/her way. Congress was Republican during most of Clinton's and Obama's presidencies. Democrats were in charge during Reagan's presidency (only the House for most of that time though), Bush Sr's presidency and much of Bush's 2nd term.
    And the entire government has been controlled by the Republicans since Trump has been in office.
    The economy has been expanding and that was part of the calculation when deficit projections were made regarding the tax cuts. He can't be blamed for a deficit that doesn't exist yet. Time will tell, not projections.
  • LadyRhianLadyRhian Member Posts: 14,694
    @Balrog99 No, even if nothing changes in the next two years, we are locked into that addition to deficit by money already spent and allocated to be spent.
  • ThacoBellThacoBell Member Posts: 12,235
    Balrog99 said:

    ThacoBell said:

    Balrog99 said:

    LadyRhian said:

    ThacoBell said:

    Balrog99 said:

    Republicans are masters at winning elections. They are incompetent clowns once they get in power.

    Because the Carter, Clinton and Obama years were flawlessly executed masterful examples of Democrat superiority. I certainly recall fondly how well the government worked in those years...
    Certainly better in some ways. Democratic presidencies have had the strongest economies in the last 30 years, and Obama is the only reason I or my family had healthcare for 7 years.
    Clinton left with a surplus, not deficit in the budget. Name me a Republican President is the time between Carter and now...

    https://www.thebalance.com/deficit-by-president-what-budget-deficits-hide-3306151

    https://www.thebalance.com/trump-vs-obama-economic-policies-4142333

    Trump, even if he doesn't add to the deficit in the next two years, has increased the deficit as much as Obama did in 8 years.
    Presidents don't add or subtract from the deficit. Only Congress can do that via laws and/or the budget. The President signs or vetoes laws but can try to steer Congress to see things his/her way. Congress was Republican during most of Clinton's and Obama's presidencies. Democrats were in charge during Reagan's presidency (only the House for most of that time though), Bush Sr's presidency and much of Bush's 2nd term.
    You'd think the economy would fluctuate less with each presidency then.
    Congress does exactly what they want to. The President takes the credit or blame because that seems to be part of the role now. Don't think for a minute that the deficit is due to one party. It hasn't gotten better in half a century. Even when the budget is 'balanced' the debt doesn't go down. I thought Trump might snake things up but it seems like it's just more of the same.

    Hah, I meant 'shake' things up but I'm just going to leave that hilarious auto-correct!
    Yet it still fluctuates whenever president's change. And according to a predictable pattern.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    LadyRhian said:

    @Balrog99 No, even if nothing changes in the next two years, we are locked into that addition to deficit by money already spent and allocated to be spent.

    The argument is that if the economy expands, more tax money will be collected as a result. Full (or nearly so) employment would help in that regard as well. The economy doesn't exist in a vacuum. Lowering taxes is tweaking one variable but there are now a lot of variables being changed at once with trade wars, tariffs, etc... If they keep tweaking multiple things it will not be possible to gauge the effects of any one change. That's probably what they want.
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,964
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  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371

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    He does have nice hair though.
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,964
    If that's honorable I'd hate to see dishonorable or drunk Bart M. O'Kavanaugh.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371

    If that's honorable I'd hate to see dishonorable or drunk Bart M. O'Kavanaugh.

    Well he IS Irish after all.
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,964
    HOW DARE YOU?!
    HOW DARE YOU DO THIS TO BRETT KAVANAUGH?
    HOW DARE YOU DENY HIM THIS SEAT?!

    Listen, NO, YOU listen!
    Do you know who Brett Kavanaugh is? Brett Kavanaugh went to Georgetown Prep!
    BRETT KAVANAUGH IS AN OPTIMIST WHO LOOKS ON THE SUNSHINE SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN!
    BRETT KAVANAUGH IS NOT YELLING!
    YOU’RE YELLING!

    If Brett does not secure a lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court, this country will be IN SHAMBLES!

    THIS IS HIS BIRTHRIGHT! Do you know how embarrassing it is for a Georgetown Prep graduate to NOT be on the Supreme Court? They are literally 12 PERCENT of the court! THIS IS PROBABLY THE WORST INDIGNITY YOU CAN INFLICT ON A HUMAN BEING!

    You are going to deny a qualified man. The treasurer of Keg Club — DO YOU HEAR HIM, HE WAS KEG CLUB TREASURER! AND A RENATE ALUMNIUS! HOW DARE YOU DENY A KEG CLUB TREASURER AND RENATE ALUMNIUS A SUPREME COURT SEAT?!

    ARE YOU GOING TO BELIEVE HER, AMERICA? OVER HIM, AMERICA?

    YOU HEARD THE WOMAN! SHE DOESN’T EVEN LIKE TO FLY! YET SHE FLEW HERE! SHE DOESN’T REMEMBER ALL THE DETAILS OF THE EVENING, WHEREAS HE KEPT A CALENDAR, LIKE HIS FATHER BEFORE HIM!

    HE IS NOT EMOTIONAL!
    YOU ARE EMOTIONAL!
    NO, YOU LISTEN!

    If this is how you are going to behave, if you are going to believe this woman, if you will let her stand there and destroy his life (well, not his life, job, or freedom, just his chance of a seat on the highest court in the land), then WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY IS THIS GOING TO BE?

    They are going to drag him here in front of all these OTHER MEN and deny him a seat on the Supreme Court, and he will have to walk home confused and disoriented, and he will have to live with the feeling that he is NOT ON THE SUPREME COURT for as long as he lives. HE DESERVES IT! IT IS HIS BIRTHRIGHT. HE WENT TO GEORGETOWN PREP.

    NOW HIS WORLD IS FALLING APART! NOW HE IS BEING FORCED TO GO OVER HIS HIGH SCHOOL BEHAVIOR WITH A FINE-TOOTHED COMB! THIS IS NOT FAIR! THIS SCRUTINY! THIS DEMAND TO ACCOUNT! HE DESERVES THIS POWER! GIVE IT TO HIM! STOP ASKING HIM THESE QUESTIONS! STOP TRYING TO SLOW THIS TRAIN DOWN! THIS TRAIN HAD BETTER GET WHERE IT IS GOING, OR SOMETHING BAD WILL HAPPEN!

    STOP SAYING THINGS! SHHH! BE QUIET! STOP RESISTING BRETT KAVANAUGH. STOP TRYING TO STOP HIM.
    NO, LISTEN! LISTEN!

    HE DESERVES THIS!

    LISTEN, YOU DON’T DESERVE THIS. AMERICA DOESN’T DESERVE BRETT KAVANAUGH ON THE SUPREME COURT.

    IF THIS IS HOW AMERICA IS GOING TO BEHAVE,
    IT DOESN’T DESERVE BRETT KAVANAUGH AT ALL!
  • LadyRhianLadyRhian Member Posts: 14,694

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    Check out the faces on those women. They are *not* impressed.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    LadyRhian said:

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    Check out the faces on those women. They are *not* impressed.
    You are SO right! Man, if looks could kill he'd be the Late Honourable Judge Kavanaugh!
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    @smeagolheart: I realize the all caps are sarcastic, but it's generally best to avoid all caps and sarcasm in political discussions. Please avoid it in the future.
  • jjstraka34jjstraka34 Member Posts: 9,850
    edited September 2018
    It appears that the committee vote is going forward, and barring a sudden growth of a spine by Murkowski, Collins, or Flake, he will come up for a full vote. If Kavanaugh takes the bench, it will be the second sitting Supreme Court Justice to be on the court despite very valid concerns that they lied under oath about sexual harassment/assault. There will be another Justice who is sitting in a seat that, quite frankly, belongs to someone else. This is not a legitimate body anymore.

    And to answer Lindsey Graham's question about why Democratic Supreme Court nominees are never accused of sexual assault?? The answer is fairly self-evident. 3 of the last 4 Democratic picks to attain a seat on the court were women.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371

    @smeagolheart: I realize the all caps are sarcastic, but it's generally best to avoid all caps and sarcasm in political discussions. Please avoid it in the future.

    I'll forgive him. I like the passion!
  • WarChiefZekeWarChiefZeke Member Posts: 2,669
    edited September 2018
    Hot takes now that it's all said and done:

    - My judgement based on what i'm seeing is that this was a win for Kavanaugh. Establishment R's are calling it the charade it is. The ordinary facebook and twitterverse are doing the same. People are doubling down, not buckling. I am not one for predictions, but if I had to make one, Kavanaugh gets the vote tomorrow.

    - Feinstein is likely the liar, not Ford, since she appears to be changing her story.

    - GOP members were getting doxxed during the hearing, presumably for those wishing to do violence.

    - No witnesses Ford named at the event ever corroborated her story, no new evidence moved the needle on a factual basis. The only meaningful evidence that exists, the named parties present at the time, support Kavanaugh's innocence. Had Republicans allowed this injustice to continue unopposed, God might have forgiven them, but I would not have.

    - The questioning of Kavanaugh was a joke, beer and farts took up far too much time, it was not at all serious. Democrats aren't interested in the truth but delaying until the midterms, we already knew that, else this would have taken place 8 weeks ago when we knew about this information and serious questions would have been asked.

    - It was almost like the Democrats were afraid to ask Kavanaugh serious questions, worrying he might be too convincing. This was their chance to trip him up in front of the world. Instead they hardly asked anything of worth.

    - Left wing verified twitter in full sociopath mode, mocking men who cry and of course bashing him for being white. Amazing what you can get away with on social media with a verified profile badge, provided you have the right politics.

    - I can't believe i'm saying this but Lindsey freaking Graham was a champ today. Straight up calling it like it is. If any one of these feckless and cowardly Republicans would have had the courage to call out the left for their viciousness, dishonesty, and willingness to destroy innocents in 2016 we wouldn't have needed Trump. There were examples of innocents being destroyed by rape lies that left wing media pushes then and there are examples of it now.

    - This has done more to rally different ideological branches of right wingers and right leaning centrists together then anything i've seen before.

    - I'm just voting red down the ticket from now on, even if I have to hold my nose. Absolutely no good faith anymore.

    - I imagine shocking evidence free allegations with also be made against Trump's next SC pick, and I hope they remember well this lesson of sticking to the principle of evidence or GTFO. Not one innocent person will be sacrificed to feed your political ambitions.
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    After seeing Kavanaugh completely fail to explain any alternative meaning for the Renate Alumnius line even when he was directly asked about that specific line during his hearing, I have to go with the only theory about that line that makes the least bit of sense: Kavanaugh, like several of his friends, slept with Renate.

    Since Kavanaugh testified under oath that he did not have sex in high school, I think it's pretty obvious that the man was committing perjury--again.

    We've already listed numerous other reasons why Kavanaugh is unfit for the Supreme Court. If perjury doesn't disqualify you for the top court in the nation, I can't possibly imagine what would.
  • jjstraka34jjstraka34 Member Posts: 9,850
    edited September 2018
    If Ford is not lying, then what are you suggesting she is doing?? Is she an alchemical creation of Dianne Feinstein and Cory Booker concocted in a lab?? If she isn't lying, and Kavanaugh is innocent, then there is only one possibility, which is that someone else committed the assault, and that Professor Ford is "confused". Is there some angle here I am missing in this equation?? Because the only thing I am seeing here is the "one-armed man did it" theory.

    I suppose Kavanaugh "wins" because he is likely going to get confirmed anyway, but that has nothing to do with what transpired today. That was pre-ordained.
  • LadyRhianLadyRhian Member Posts: 14,694
    @WarGodZeke Where was Mark Judge? Why wasn't he questioned under oath?

    And, to bring this up again, you said the 4th accuser recanted her story and was shown to be lying. Where did this happen? You never did answer my question.
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