tried him out once to see what he was like and he annoyed me to hell the full fifteen minutes I had him in my party. I don't find his megalomania funny, just very grating on the nerves.
But By the time you finish the first game and start up the second, you've spent so much time getting to know her, she's warmed up to you a little. You defeated Sarevok and saved the Sword Coast, so you've kinda proven yourself to be a capable adult in her eyes. Sometimes her more stern personality comes out when she's under stress, but she's generally much nicer in BG2 than in BG1.
She does still spend a lot of time directing you on what to do and where to go and filling you in on things you already knew or just heard. She tends to come across as being a teacher or mother figure in the group, which is understandable I suppose since she has been at this longer than CHARNAME and many of the other NPC's.
see thats how i have always viewed Jaheira, as a role model/mother figure. She may be blunt, but that doesn't bother me, as i prefer to have things told straight to me rather than sugar coated. And whenever i play a good aligned party, i feel weird if i dont take her. As even for a druid, she acts more neutral good.
You know what, I'm changing my opinion. I'm sorry Jaheira. You're not the worst. Kolssed is the worst. Yeah, you know. That fat guy who never has anything helpful to say, and always tries to talk to you right outside of Candlekeep. I always try to avoid him.
What I don't like about Viconia's voiceset is the "OMAI LOOK HOW EXOTIC I R!" flair. She's obviously quite eloquent in the common language, but just has to throw in random drow terms like a weeaboo going "kawaii desu". It doesn't make sense to me; Viconia is obviously trying to come to terms with life on the surface and accepting she can't just go home. Why would she advertise how different she is all the time? Same as her remarking how stupid surfacers are - directed at the surfacers who saved her, how stupid can they be?
What I don't like about Viconia's voiceset is the "OMAI LOOK HOW EXOTIC I R!" flair. She's obviously quite eloquent in the common language, but just has to throw in random drow terms like a weeaboo going "kawaii desu". It doesn't make sense to me; Viconia is obviously trying to come to terms with life on the surface and accepting she can't just go home. Why would she advertise how different she is all the time? Same as her remarking how stupid surfacers are - directed at the surfacers who saved her, how stupid can they be?
Because despite having been banished to the surface and put to the merciless onslaught of racial hatred, she still has her pride, and pride can make anyone do or say some foolish things.
I personally hate it when any tv show or movie has a character speak in a foreign language and does not provide subtitles. For all I know Viconia could be saying the most ridiculous thing.
OT: Lol. I remember when the Gungnam Style song came out. I thought it would be hilarious if the number one hit song in America had Korean lyrics that actually translate into "Americans so stupid. They buy anything. dopes dopes dopes, Opa gangnum style!"
If you know people who have spanish or korean as a second language, when they express strong emotion they will often slip into cursing in their native tongue. I don't find it at all weird that Viconia does this as well.
If you know people who have spanish or korean as a second language, when they express strong emotion they will often slip into cursing in their native tongue. I don't find it at all weird that Viconia does this as well.
@ZaknafeinBaenre Thank you. I was informed swear words were invented by William the Conquer who banned the Anglo-saxons from shouting certain words at him such as
@ZaknafeinBaenre Thank you. I was informed swear words were invented by William the Conquer who banned the Anglo-saxons from shouting certain words at him such as
**ck off and **stard.
I dated a korean girl (michin!)...and a spanish girl (loco!)...I've yet to go out with a drow girl but one can dream. That would complete my circuit of craziness
@ZaknafeinBaenre Thank you. I was informed swear words were invented by William the Conquer who banned the Anglo-saxons from shouting certain words at him such as
**ck off and **stard.
Actually I think William was quite proud of the "bastard" name, it was literally true in his case!
Cursing and profanity go way back. Its been observed in Ancient Roman public restrooms, and we have examples from Ancient Greek and even the Bible (hint, "Baalzebub" wasn't the Canaanite Deity's proper name; that actually translates as "God of Poop" errr, or something like that).
@ZaknafeinBaenre Thank you. I was informed swear words were invented by William the Conquer who banned the Anglo-saxons from shouting certain words at him such as
**ck off and **stard.
I dated a korean girl (michin!)...and a spanish girl (loco!)...I've yet to go out with a drow girl but one can dream. That would complete my circuit of craziness
Yeah, most argentinians don't call you dude, they call you b***do or other curses in a friendly way. Lots of words are used the other way they should be used (so lots of people say 'maaaaal' (which means bad with lots os As) when something is cool).
To answer what was wrong with the korean girl, everything! She was ultra controlling and manipulative, and about once a week she would have crazy freak-outs where she'd yell and throw things at me, and then follow it up with sobbing, crying apologies and passionate lovemaking.
It was a lot to go through and if it wasn't for that last part it wouldn't have lasted the whole 6 months.
I don't remember if I posted on this thread yet, or what I voted for(it says I did), but I hope it's other. I can not stand nalia's voice set. Had her for all of 15 minutes. For all the character depth, splendid writing, or utility she may have, I will have to turn the sound off if I am to play her.
I probably wouldn't mind Viconia if all the other NPCs from foreign places did the same. I can picture Edwin mumbling in Thayvian to himself (which would likely be the language he casts in, too). Same for Dynaheir, and Minsc - who would likely have a harder time to learn a new language as fluently as he speaks common than the mages; and - as said above, rage/anger often makes people slip back into their native language. Minsc rages more than anyone. Haer'Dalis would be someone to use exotic words to show off or add to his poetry. None of them ever does; not a single word. Yet Viconia, the one who tries to fit in, goes on and on in drow. That simply seems forced to me.
Well if memory serves, common is an automatic language for Thayans and Rashemani, this is not the case for Drow. So I don't think it would stretch credulity too much for her to use elven words now and again. Plus, she's a bit of a social pariah-so I don't think she gets as time to practice common as Haer'Dalis does, for instance.
drow are so much more disconnected from the surface world than any of the other NPC's, that they have no such familiarity with their languages. Besides, Viconia's drow curses are sexy.
drow are so much more disconnected from the surface world than any of the other NPC's, that they have no such familiarity with their languages. Besides, Viconia's drow curses are sexy.
And her battle cries are the best. I simply cant imagine BG without her "Lil alur! for Shar!", "Ultrenen!' and "Vitoss!"
@ZaknafeinBaenre Thank you. I was informed swear words were invented by William the Conquer who banned the Anglo-saxons from shouting certain words at him such as
**ck off and **stard.
"Baalzebub" wasn't the Canaanite Deity's proper name; that actually translates as "God of Poop" errr, or something like that).
Its 'Lord of Flies', the original that the Hebrews were ripping on being closer to 'Baal Zebul', or 'Lord of the High House'. Molech/Moloch is another one. It takes the word for King, Melek, and adds in the vowel sounds for the word for shame, 'boshet'. Dem Hebrews loved their insulting wordplays XD
It used to be thought that people always swore in their native tongue, so if you wanted to catch a soviet spy you had to do something that would make them swear. Something sudden or that would cause them considerable pain, they'd naturally cry out in their own tongue.
It's odd that you never hear Aerie speak elven, since she is very much an alien character in that world. Given how isolated Avariel are, it probably was never a requirement for her to learn common as a child...
[spoiler]But then when you romance her into ToB the screen fades as she's giving birth, so who knows what extremely colorful metaphors she was coming out with then. But it would have been in elven, so probably would still sounded lyrical and nice if you didn't know what she was saying.[/quote]
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tried him out once to see what he was like and he annoyed me to hell the full fifteen minutes I had him in my party. I don't find his megalomania funny, just very grating on the nerves.
Some of Viconia's voiced lines are over-the-top dramatic, and elicit an eye-roll from me. But I still sort of like her.
OT: Lol. I remember when the Gungnam Style song came out. I thought it would be hilarious if the number one hit song in America had Korean lyrics that actually translate into "Americans so stupid. They buy anything. dopes dopes dopes, Opa gangnum style!"
I like... had a dump stat CHA score of 2... and she still slept with me : )
Maybe the Spanish girl just liked trains! People always hear the worst sometimes...
*Anduin awaits prize for most annoying poster*
Cursing and profanity go way back. Its been observed in Ancient Roman public restrooms, and we have examples from Ancient Greek and even the Bible (hint, "Baalzebub" wasn't the Canaanite Deity's proper name; that actually translates as "God of Poop" errr, or something like that).
What is so bad about "back off" and "custard"?
Lots of words are used the other way they should be used (so lots of people say 'maaaaal' (which means bad with lots os As) when something is cool).
It was a lot to go through and if it wasn't for that last part it wouldn't have lasted the whole 6 months.
Her chin was gorgeous.
@ZaknafeinBaenre Glad the chin was gorgeous... Must admit its not what I look for in a girl...
It's odd that you never hear Aerie speak elven, since she is very much an alien character in that world. Given how isolated Avariel are, it probably was never a requirement for her to learn common as a child...
[spoiler]But then when you romance her into ToB the screen fades as she's giving birth, so who knows what extremely colorful metaphors she was coming out with then. But it would have been in elven, so probably would still sounded lyrical and nice if you didn't know what she was saying.[/quote]