@Anduin 21 dexterity would be like those monk kids in China/Nepal that can bend every possible way. 23 charisma would be like Aphrodite. 18 int is a rocket scientist 18 con is a world heavyweight ufc fighter
18 int is "gifted". Now I'm sure they *could* be rocket scientist, but let's not make generalizations. There are lots of neurosurgeons out there to.
@Anduin 21 dexterity would be like those monk kids in China/Nepal that can bend every possible way. 23 charisma would be like Aphrodite. 18 int is a rocket scientist 18 con is a world heavyweight ufc fighter
18 int is "gifted". Now I'm sure they *could* be rocket scientist, but let's not make generalizations. There are lots of neurosurgeons out there to.
I was using generalizations just to shorten my post, I could go into detail and cause a paragraph or two, but I don't like to write text walls.
@Anduin 21 dexterity would be like those monk kids in China/Nepal that can bend every possible way. 23 charisma would be like Aphrodite. 18 int is a rocket scientist 18 con is a world heavyweight ufc fighter
Quizzes can't accurately determine my strength though as I'm able to push a 1 ton truck up an incline by myself yet haven't worked out beyond everyday lifting for 4 years. I know that because I did it when one stalled in the drive through, which is on a slight slope.
Screw these fancy stat creators!
Using this clip alone for evidence...
I was still standing after drinking 12 pints of beer and cider, including brews aptly named Skulkcrusher and Headthumper, that are standard at CAMRA Beer festivals. The hat of champions was placed on my head due to the previous owner falling unconscious. The 18 stat stays.
I managed to convince the organisers that I was the band runner (My wife plays in the band). So I fetched all the drinks. Which for band players was free. The band could not drink and play... So I drank the beer... You may think this is charisma in action. But this is cruel, well plotted intelligence at work. Although, I did destroy some braincells in the aftermath. Unless you can prove otherwise. The 18 stat stays!
Lastly.
I pulled a heterosexual male, surrounded by strippers on his stag do, in front of his friends, on camera, in less than 3 minutes. My wife approved. I'd like to see Aphrodite do better. 23 Charisma stat stays! Hell, raise it to 24!
This is a video of me, drunk at a beer festival, preventing a fight.
I think it categorically proves that I have these stats. I have even lowered my wisdom for not having a twitter or youtube account until today, increased my intelligence for figuring it out...
STR: 16 INT: 18 WIS: 6 DEX: 21 CON: 18 CHR: 23
I completely dig how my drinking hat makes me look like a wizards hat in this clip.
Plus @Quartz ... This is how you pull. Take notes.
For Dexterity, I can see you being 17 to 18, 21 is too much, you would have to be able to put your feet behind your head to get that score. Also, are you able to perform all sorts of tricks with your hands? Or dodge through oncoming traffic without getting clipped when cutting across the busiest(not-jammed) highway you know of? Also, are you proficient at freerunning? For Charisma, somewhere between 14-16, remember 20 is when god-like abilities begin to appear. For Constitution, You have never been to Canada. People do that all the time here. Does that mean we all have 18 or higher constitution? My brother can drink 45 beer cans and a 40 of whiskey in one night and still get up at the right time the next morning, a little drunk of course though. Remember that 20 constitution gives regeneration. For Intelligence: I'm not sure here, since I haven't seen anything about you, but it still seems too high. I'm not calling you stupid, but you don't seem like Einstein for example. I can see around a 14 or a 15 at most.
Remember this: 10!!! is the average statistic of an average human. 18 is nearly superhuman while 20 is superhuman. Anything higher than 20 is only gained through heavy focus on it through your entire life. I mean from being a child.
How I score myself: Strength: 15 - I have pushed a 1 ton truck up an incline Dexterity: 7 - I am a double-jointed clutz Constitution: 15 - I rarely get sick, can drink almost anyone I know under the table(I rarely drink alcohol), and can take a punch from a stronger and heavier person and get back up, I have also never broken a bone or sprained a joint in my life. Intelligence: 14 - I learn new things faster than most people, and most people recognize that I am intelligent. Wisdom: 16 - People regularly come to me for advice, My gut instinct is right most of the time, I can tell the ending of a story 90% of the time. Charisma: 13 - people say I'm handsome - I don't believe them though - I'm just myself, people instinctively look up to me for guidance, and only 1 of every 100 or so people dislike me - I tend to dislike them too. People also tend to remember me. I am only single because I choose to be single(I have turned down a few advances with the truth). I am stubborn though.
@jackjack That raises an interesting point, namely that in 2E your stats don't increase as you go. Hence, @Heindrich argued that they represent your potential rather than your actual ability. For example, a high CON (representing your potential) character has the potential of being a high-HP (representing your actual ability) fighter, but if he decides not to pursue that path, his HP will be lower (duh). Your stats would then be the same as a child as they are now.
For Constitution, You have never been to Canada. People do that all the time here. Does that mean we all have 18 or higher constitution? My brother can drink 45 beer cans and a 40 of whiskey in one night and still get up at the right time the next morning, a little drunk of course though. Remember that 20 constitution gives regeneration.
Call me an idiot, but would drinking really increase constitution? You grow a tolerance to alcohol, but that doesn't suddenly mean you'll never get tired or ill. I've grown up around hard alcoholics and they were all dropping to pieces by the age of 40...
@TheGraveDigger you are taking my ridiculous response to his comparison and arguing against it. Alcohol does almost nothing for constitution. Note: read the whole conversation people.
You know, this is why I do not like writing text walls. People take little excerpts from them and pick apart those little quotes which are a part of the bigger post and then argue about them. When in the post it had an entirely different meaning.
You know, this is why I do not like writing text walls. People take little excerpts from them and pick apart those little quotes which are a part of the bigger post and then argue about them. When in the post it had an entirely different meaning.
Isn't it annoying when someone quotes a wall of text just to address a small part of it? But I shouldn't have quoted you at all, I could have just asked the question by itself.
And I wasn't arguing against you, it's actually a hidden constitution stat in the game... the higher your stat, the more you can drink. Which sort of makes sense and doesn't... Look at dwarves, they pretty much bleed ale, and yet they have the best constitution scores. Does that mean other kinds of "drug" users also deserve great constitution? Actually, the more I think about it... the dumber it sounds.
Following the other posts... Dexterity is more about your ability to manipulate the outside world or reacting to the outside world.
So a dart player who can hit treble 20 with each throw, a dancer keeping perfect timing with a partner carrying out a complicated manoeuvre, or a juggler who throws 12 chainsaws without losing a limb have high dexterity. Touching a nose with a toe obviously does not mean you necessarily have the dexterity to avoid the thrust of a blade (however an agile dancer could.)
The physical stats are accurate. Where I have a problem is the mental stats. 15 Intelligence? My family tells me I underrate my intelligence (is 127 IQ good?), but I still have a hard time believing it's that high.
Furthermore my Wisdom is 11 because the quiz is damn stupid. Good life choices =/= absent-mindedness. They are two completely separate concepts. I believe that I am very observant of people, human nature, the world around me, and philosophy. However I am also pretty absent-minded.
Charisma 13 seems about right. If I pushed myself I could go higher, but often times I lack patience with people.
Strength: 15 - I have pushed a 1 ton truck up an incline
Ohh, that ain't no paltry 15 Strength (above Human average as that is), that's easily an 18, if not an 18/00! Might even be higher! That is no ordinary feat of strength.
Strength: 15 - I have pushed a 1 ton truck up an incline
Ohh, that ain't no paltry 15 Strength (above Human average as that is), that's easily an 18, if not an 18/00! Might even be higher! That is no ordinary feat of strength.
Problem is I can only do 20 push-ups and cannot do chinups. So 15 is about as accurate as I can get, as my legs are insane, yet my arms are not. All leg power, 1 kick can knock someone to the ground, yet one punch is laughable in comparison. It gets hard to find jeans since almost no one makes decent looking jeans that my legs can fit in without being tight. So if I was well rounded, I would agree and put an 18 up there, I am however not well rounded. When you speed walk for 8 hours a day 5 days a week for 3 years, that sort of thing happens. The only stat I don't think I have right there is my dex, as my hand eye coordination is bad, and I am double jointed in every joint in my arms and hands, but I am really good at dodging through crowds, then again I'm pretty good at predicting how people are going to move in a crowd which would be more wisdom than dex no? I get the random person that sticks out that I sometimes have to dodge around though. A year ago, I was able to nearly run past 14 tills during the Christmas Season while all were open, without stopping once every 4 to 5 minutes. This is with lineups so long they go down the aisles.
Note: I edited this post everytime I sheathed my Roman Gladius.
To which I say good enough. Though I am not dexterous enough to become a Skald (clearly my true calling) I shall instead become a cleric/mage. Not a particularly dexterous cleric/mage mind you, so I'll probably be dead within a week unless I get my hands on a pair of dexterity boosting gauntlets.
To which I say good enough. Though I am not dexterous enough to become a Skald (clearly my true calling) I shall instead become a cleric/mage. Not a particularly dexterous cleric/mage mind you, so I'll probably be dead within a week unless I get my hands on a pair of dexterity boosting gauntlets.
Quickly! A doppelganger Elminster between us! I don't believe a single word...
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Using this clip alone for evidence...
I was still standing after drinking 12 pints of beer and cider, including brews aptly named Skulkcrusher and Headthumper, that are standard at CAMRA Beer festivals. The hat of champions was placed on my head due to the previous owner falling unconscious. The 18 stat stays.
I managed to convince the organisers that I was the band runner (My wife plays in the band). So I fetched all the drinks. Which for band players was free. The band could not drink and play... So I drank the beer... You may think this is charisma in action. But this is cruel, well plotted intelligence at work. Although, I did destroy some braincells in the aftermath. Unless you can prove otherwise. The 18 stat stays!
Lastly.
I pulled a heterosexual male, surrounded by strippers on his stag do, in front of his friends, on camera, in less than 3 minutes. My wife approved. I'd like to see Aphrodite do better. 23 Charisma stat stays! Hell, raise it to 24!
For Charisma, somewhere between 14-16, remember 20 is when god-like abilities begin to appear.
For Constitution, You have never been to Canada. People do that all the time here. Does that mean we all have 18 or higher constitution? My brother can drink 45 beer cans and a 40 of whiskey in one night and still get up at the right time the next morning, a little drunk of course though. Remember that 20 constitution gives regeneration.
For Intelligence: I'm not sure here, since I haven't seen anything about you, but it still seems too high. I'm not calling you stupid, but you don't seem like Einstein for example. I can see around a 14 or a 15 at most.
Remember this: 10!!! is the average statistic of an average human. 18 is nearly superhuman while 20 is superhuman. Anything higher than 20 is only gained through heavy focus on it through your entire life. I mean from being a child.
How I score myself:
Strength: 15 - I have pushed a 1 ton truck up an incline
Dexterity: 7 - I am a double-jointed clutz
Constitution: 15 - I rarely get sick, can drink almost anyone I know under the table(I rarely drink alcohol), and can take a punch from a stronger and heavier person and get back up, I have also never broken a bone or sprained a joint in my life.
Intelligence: 14 - I learn new things faster than most people, and most people recognize that I am intelligent.
Wisdom: 16 - People regularly come to me for advice, My gut instinct is right most of the time, I can tell the ending of a story 90% of the time.
Charisma: 13 - people say I'm handsome - I don't believe them though - I'm just myself, people instinctively look up to me for guidance, and only 1 of every 100 or so people dislike me - I tend to dislike them too. People also tend to remember me. I am only single because I choose to be single(I have turned down a few advances with the truth). I am stubborn though.
Race - Human
Class - Beggar
Alignment - Chaotic Neutral
Str 2
Dex 4
Con 1
Int 5
Wis 1
Cha 8
And I wasn't arguing against you, it's actually a hidden constitution stat in the game... the higher your stat, the more you can drink. Which sort of makes sense and doesn't... Look at dwarves, they pretty much bleed ale, and yet they have the best constitution scores. Does that mean other kinds of "drug" users also deserve great constitution? Actually, the more I think about it... the dumber it sounds.
I thought that was pretty standard...
So a dart player who can hit treble 20 with each throw, a dancer keeping perfect timing with a partner carrying out a complicated manoeuvre, or a juggler who throws 12 chainsaws without losing a limb have high dexterity. Touching a nose with a toe obviously does not mean you necessarily have the dexterity to avoid the thrust of a blade (however an agile dancer could.)
STR: 11
DEX: 13
CON: 10
INT: 15
WIS: 11
CHA: 13
The physical stats are accurate. Where I have a problem is the mental stats. 15 Intelligence? My family tells me I underrate my intelligence (is 127 IQ good?), but I still have a hard time believing it's that high.
Furthermore my Wisdom is 11 because the quiz is damn stupid. Good life choices =/= absent-mindedness. They are two completely separate concepts. I believe that I am very observant of people, human nature, the world around me, and philosophy. However I am also pretty absent-minded.
Charisma 13 seems about right. If I pushed myself I could go higher, but often times I lack patience with people.
The only stat I don't think I have right there is my dex, as my hand eye coordination is bad, and I am double jointed in every joint in my arms and hands, but I am really good at dodging through crowds, then again I'm pretty good at predicting how people are going to move in a crowd which would be more wisdom than dex no? I get the random person that sticks out that I sometimes have to dodge around though. A year ago, I was able to nearly run past 14 tills during the Christmas Season while all were open, without stopping once every 4 to 5 minutes. This is with lineups so long they go down the aisles.
Note: I edited this post everytime I sheathed my Roman Gladius.
STR: 8
DEX: 6
CON: 11
INT:13
WIS: 14
CHR: 9
To which I say good enough. Though I am not dexterous enough to become a Skald (clearly my true calling) I shall instead become a cleric/mage. Not a particularly dexterous cleric/mage mind you, so I'll probably be dead within a week unless I get my hands on a pair of dexterity boosting gauntlets.
CON:14
DEX:14
INT:10
WIS:10
CHA:10
That's how I see myself.
STR:
INT: