New D&D Movie Announced, Forgotten Realms Mentioned
Well, this is interesting. A new partnership to make another D&D movie, with some of the same people involved in the original movie (bleh!). The Forgotten Realms setting is mentioned in the press release, which is both cool and horribly frightening (the mind boggles with how many ways they could mess it up).
From: http://www.warnerbros.com/studio/news/warner-bros-pictures-and-hasbro-partner-dungeons-dragons-feature-film-franchise-based
From: http://www.warnerbros.com/studio/news/warner-bros-pictures-and-hasbro-partner-dungeons-dragons-feature-film-franchise-based
Warner Bros. Pictures and Hasbro Partner on Dungeons & Dragons Feature Film Franchise Based on Iconic PropertyThere is some illuminating commentary here as well:
(August 3, 2015 – Burbank, CA) – Warner Bros. Pictures, Hasbro’s Allspark Pictures and Sweetpea Entertainment are moving forward on a feature film franchise based on Dungeons & Dragons, the world’s most popular role playing game. Hasbro’s Brian Goldner and Stephen Davis, Courtney Solomon and Allan Zeman of Sweetpea Entertainment, and Roy Lee (“The LEGO Movie,” “How to Train Your Dragon”) are attached as producers.
Highlighting the priority being given to the project, Warner Bros. Pictures already has a script, written by David Leslie Johnson (“The Conjuring 2,” “Wrath of the Titans”).
“We are so excited about bringing the world of Dungeons & Dragons to life on the big screen,” said Greg Silverman, President, Creative Development and Worldwide Production, Warner Bros. Pictures. “This is far and away the most well-known brand in fantasy, which is the genre that drives the most passionate film followings. D&D has endless creative possibilities, giving our filmmakers immense opportunities to delight and thrill both fans and moviegoers new to the property.”
“This is such an enormous opportunity to bring the rich fantasy setting of the Forgotten Realms to life and, together with the creative powerhouse of Warner Bros., use movies to tell the stories that have enchanted passionate D&D fans for decades,” said Stephen Davis, Executive Vice President and Chief Content Officer of Hasbro, Inc. “D&D is the role-playing game that started it all and now we have the opportunity to ignite a franchise for its legions of avid fans in a way never done before.”
Dungeons & Dragons first became popular in 1974, and since then has amassed millions of players and fans worldwide. The hugely popular property has also influenced numerous writers, directors, game designers, and other creative professionals throughout its four decades.
“We are thrilled that this beloved property can finally make its way to the big screen after 20 years, and that it can be realized by Warner Bros., which has been responsible for the biggest fantasy franchises over the past two decades,” said Courtney Solomon of Sweetpea Entertainment.
Today’s announcement reflects the resolution of Hasbro and Wizards of the Coast LLC’s complaint against Sweetpea Entertainment, Inc. and Sweetpea BVI, Ltd. and the counterclaims filed by Sweetpea against Hasbro in May 2013 related to the Dungeons & Dragon brand. Solomon and Zeman will be attached to produce all Warner Bros.-produced Dungeons & Dragons film and television productions. All rights for future Dungeons & Dragons productions have been unified and returned to Wizards of the Coast, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Hasbro.
It’s really entertaining how Warner Bros’ press release makes absolutely no mention of the 2000 stinker, the Jupiter Ascending of its time but with less potential for Tumblr fandom. Which is ironic, considering that this announcement marks the end of the rights battle between Hasbro and Sweetpea Entertainment, Inc.—the same production company who was responsible for the D&D movie that bombed. Instead, quotes from folks like Greg Silverman, Warner Bros’ President of Creative Development and Worldwide Production, are all about looking ahead to drawing in new audiencesSo, any thoughts on how hard this will flop?
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(though from the looks of things at least this one will be set in the forgotten realms)
Or maybe converting the Times of Trouble to film... how three lowly adventurers became gods...
But they'll probably do spell plague.
It would be interesting to list the good, ORIGINAL ideas in DnD, that aren't specifically tied to gameplay. I'll start with: Beholders, Red Wizards of Thay.
Given WotC's current desire to cross promote everything I'd guess a movie set in and around Neverwinter is a very likely possibility. "You've watched the movie, now play the game!"
I think that a movie CAN be done on the order of 'The 13th Warrior' or even 'The Lord of the Rings', if it gets the right treatment. Heck, look at how good Marvel has made movies come from where Super Heroes were in the 80s. I just hope that they take it as a serious movie opportunity rather than a hack job.
Alternately, they could hire Bruce Campbell and have him wave around his BOOM stick at monsters. I'd watch that in a heart beat.
Obviously I HOPE for better this time. I would love to see something legitimately good. I'm not currently optimistic, but we're very early in the process so I'd say its too early to draw any conclusions.
We have seen some willingness in the last couple years to spend some serious money on fantasy, so there is hope.
I'd love to see a movie about Arilyn Moonblade and Danilo Thann. Even the Companions of Mithril Hall (yes, everyone say, "Hi!" to Drizzt for me, because you know Drizzt fanboys would get turned on by all that). If they did the whole saga of Crenshinibon and Errtu and all that, I think that would make a pretty good movie. And there are the other two books if the story turns out in desperate need of a sequel.
Yes, I'm aware that this is a 2e story we are talking about, but hey, that's fine. 5e is supposed to be returning to the Lore of 2e, and that's fine.
Doing the whole IWD trilogy would be cool, but it'd take more than one film to do that, and such a project would be quite a high-risk endeavour, I think. They tried it with Dragonlance, and I don't think they ever made a second film because it flopped so badly (they did an animated one because they couldn't get the budget for a proper film). Shame, because I think Dragonlance is probably my favourite setting in D&D...it (at least the original trilogy) ticks all of my boxes of being mainly low-level, magic being rare/evil, and more about people working together than one hero being so badass that he can beat everybody (which is what Forgotten Realms tends to gravitate towards).
My biggest hope is that they don't do an over-simplified plot like the first one... "the Emperess wants everybody to be equal!" always felt too simplistic to me (how is she going to achieve that anyway? What laws will she pass to make this possible? Equal rights? Equal pay? Equal chance to learn magic whether you have the ability or not? Abolition of slavery? Illegal to treat somebody differently based on their social status? You can't just say "I rule that everybody is equal!", you need to say how you're going to make everybody equal!).
Personally I think it should be exactly like the game...four heroes should meet in a tavern, and their first quest should be to kill a bunch of rats in the basement!! Okay, that wouldn't work as a film, but it'd be hilarious...every geek in the room will be in tears with laughter, while every non-geek would be like "uh...what?"
If they were to do something like Dragonlance (yes, I know it is the wrong realm, but for argument sake), Tas would have to be comedic or he wouldn't be Tas. If they were to do Baldur's gate, Minsc and Boo (don't kill me fans of these two lovable characters) would have to be done with more than a little bit of tongue and cheek. Take my point?
What really made the Marvel movies (at least for me) was that they didn't take themselves over serious. But they also didn't turn it into a parody. Seeing Peter Quill break into a Dance off against Ronan was Hilarious. And for him to then say "I'm distracting you, you bit Turd Blossom!" made me crack up. And it made sense in the context of the characters and the movie without turning them into caricatures.
Just don't make it a Fineas Fingers story (which actually could be fun as well now that I think about it).
http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?2801-New-D-D-Movie-To-Go-Ahead-Produced-By-Lego-Movie-s-Roy-Lee#.VcZ_bXHtlBc
1) Don't call it Dungeons & Dragons: Seriously, if they want this movie to succeed they need to not remind people of the previous crappy D&D movies.
2) Make it about Drizzt and call it ''Forgotten Realms: The Crystal Shard.''
I would imagine they would be sailing into muddy legal waters if they adapted a specific novel (or computer game).
Personally, I would remake Hawk the Slayer. That was pretty much unofficial D&D.
Young Male Human Fighter
Female Human Cleric of Pelor/Lathander Healer
Female Elf Archer
Male Dwarf Fighter
Male Halfling Thief
I want like
Female Halfling Paladin (Mazzy? )
Male Half-Orc Thief
Male or Female Dwarvern Loremaster (Wizard)
and a Male or Female Gnome Cleric of Nerull/Mrykul
OR MAYBE AN EVIL PARTY
That'd be neat!
But no.
We're probably going to get the standard.
Also, the second D&D film had a dwarf rogue - at least I think he was a dwarf (he was short and stocky, and built the way I imagine dwarves to be), which is also quite non-standard. Although I'm actually a fan of some traditional archetypes, Nim was actually my favourite character from the second D&D film.
Personally, I don't care about the specifics of races/classes, as long as they're interesting characters. I've seen players fall into the trap of thinking an unusual race/class combination equals a unique and interesting character, and forget to give the character a personality. IMO, a human paladin from Cormyr with a good personality is more interesting than a half-drow half-tiefling ninja/paladin/warlock with no personality. It's all about the personality...make him interesting and I don't care if the fighter is male or female, or human, elf, dwarf, gnome, halfling, half demon, half dragonborn godlike drow cross-breed clone, or the avatar of Tempus himself.
And since that is the essence of what D&D is perceived as, I'd be extremely surprised if they didn't do that.
I liked the concept of a Lawful Good character having to team up with evil characters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnMzDyIJT2g