A plea on behalf of cleric/thieves everywhere

GreenWarlock

Please let us use or defining ability - the 'thief' skill (disarm traps/pick locks) - whenever we want, just like a regular thief, or mage/thief, or fighter/mage/thief, or fighter/thief, or dual class variant of the above, or ...

Feedback from the SoD livestream is that despite significant engine revisions, the cleric/thief will still not have access to this commonly used skill on the primary user interface. That is unfortunate, but given hotkeys I can live with that if you at least fix it suddenly becoming a magic ability that does not function in no-magic zones, or when other effects cripple magic abilities, now that it has scrolled onto the special-abilities page, but /only/ for cleric/thieves.

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sarevok57

this has been asked before, so who knows if they will implement easier access to it?

semiticgoddess

I heard they actually are going to change up Cleric/Thieves in that respect. I understand that SoD Cleric/Thieves will have to click the innate abilities icon to hide in shadows and detect traps, too.

I believe they're also moving the innate abilities icon to the upper right corner of the screen.

And to keep the UI from getting in the way of the game's pretty new scenery, they're reducing the icon to a 2x2 pixel square and turning it translucent.

Also, Cleric/Thieves in SoD can no longer use thieving abilities. Or cast spells.

GreenWarlock

@semiticgod you are mean!! Thanks for the laugh

OlvynChuru

Maybe there should be an option to change which button gets sent to the special abilities menu.

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GreenWarlock

@typo_tilly are you saying the hot-key works for you in Black Pits 2? It could be I am just looking for a Mac fix, which would be a much easier sell

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JuliusBorisov

@typo_tilly @GreenWarlock https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/25338/thief-cleric-cannot-lockpick-and-steal-in-black-pits2 This bug hasn't been fixed yet, and is known to the developers.

https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/38907/black-pits-ii-problem-picking-locks

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GreenWarlock

The issue is in anti-magic zones, which I don't remember seeing in BG1. As the skill moves to the special-abilities page, anything that causes special abilities to be disabled also disables the regular pick locks/disarm traps skill (only for cleric/thieves). Mapping that ability to hot-key, to avoid needing to open the special abilities page, does not help - and is the minimal fix I requested at the top of this thread.