2.0 update ETA?
fetito666
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Will Beamdog update ID:EE too with the 2.0 improvements from BG?
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I was gonna say that...
Beamdog haven't been silent on what they have been doing. It has been decided to take time with the next update, to provide the best possible result. The plan is to bring engine improvents to all games eventually, it was confirmed by Phillip Daigle a long time ago. As you can read at https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/comment/823242#Comment_823242, the 2.4 update is still quite far.
So, the IWD's 2.X patch will take time.
I beg you pardon, sir, but I strongly disagree with your line of thought that the answer linked isn't even somewhere close to a respectful one.
I didn't say, for start, that Beamdog was silent about what she was doing. She is silent about a deadline for 2.4. Here's how a good employee works: you commit to a deadline and work your way to accomplish it. And despite the fact that we are the biggest Beamdog's stackholders (their clients) they just haven't even tried to make any commitment with us in this matter. "It's done when it's done" is a lame and unprofessional answer. Just try to use it on your job.
That being said, Beamdog never gave us a deadline, just putted us on a hook. And the answer that you linked, the way I see, says: I don't bloody care for those who already bought our product, I'm interested in selling new things.
Implementing 2.X is a huge boost on the game to be something to not be made as long as Beamdog wants. We are not talking about some minor script adjust or dialogue correction. We are talking about something that is close to a whole new game.
One of the pillars that made all this Beamdog project possible was the sincere communication between them and us. Now that the money are in their pockets all we hear about this game is "it's done when it's done".
I've tried to be as polite as possible and I apologize in advance if I was too rude somehow, but I'm really tired of seeing this behavior of Beamdog towards IWD.
Getting the 2.x UI features and Shaman class at some point will be neat, but there's no urgency, really.
It's not a matter of urgency. Nothing here for us, costumers, is about urgency. Is about fun and respect.
@Doubledimas I saw this one. The way I see was the same kind of answer: to the hell with those that already bought the game, we are looking for new pockets.
old manRaduziel.If you can't see much difference between IWD and IWDEE, I guess, nothing can change your view (classes, kits, spells, items, dialogue lines, many more).
IWDEE is pretty stable now. It doesn't have 2.X engine improvements, yes, but the 2.X engine improvements can still be... improved. The job that is being done on the new project will be helpful when improving the 2.X versions, in the end resulting in better IWDEE.
This may not be a problem for you, but for me sir, it is the world. Still I don't really understand how you see no difference in the game what so ever.
As @JuliusBorisov mentioned, there are more classes and more variety in play styles. I believe dual wielding for instance, was not implemented in the original game. Not Sorcerers either. I can't name all the differences between the two games because I barely played the first one, due to it being "unplayable" in my opinion. Yes, I am quite picky when it comes to that. The resolution and all that limited functionallity.
As I said, I tried the EE version once, and I had tons of fun actually, until I ran in to a bug that put a stop to the playthrough. These bugs come from rushed updates and patches. The game is playable, a rushed patch may change that. Let them take their time with their updates. You can always take a break and play another game if you really don't feel like playing IWDEE. I am sure you got more hobbies/games to enjoy, with all due respect.
But they always said they want to do a IWD to v2+ version. It might take some time however.
While I've not always agreed with Beamdog's decisions and business practices, and have even been dissatisfied a few times with the states of my games from them, I in no way think they owe me anything. If I was past a certain threshold of dissatisfaction, I wouldn't buy any future releases, but I know good and well I'm going to buy anything they put out that's D&D related, and they would know it too if I started trying to ineffectively influence them to pander to me by making empty boycotting threats and accusations that they were disrespecting me by not giving me what I wanted immediately.
That said, it looks like they did mess up pretty bad on the Collector's Edition for SoD. I'm really glad I didn't succumb to the temptation to buy that, because that's still a case where people really didn't get what they paid for. If I were in charge of Beamdog, getting that debacle resolved would be my priority.