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  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    mlnevese said:

    What happens if you hit someone with full body armor +0 of vulnerability to everything with a lethal weapon +0 of not harming?

    It should do negative 0 lethal crushing subdual damage.
  • ArdanisArdanis Member Posts: 1,736
    edited August 2017
    We need a forum rule that forbids linking to tvtropes under penalty of immediate ban :p
    That place is absolutely NSFW...
    mlnevese said:

    What happens if you hit someone with full body armor +0 of vulnerability to everything with a lethal weapon +0 of not harming?

    Divide by zero error.
  • DreadKhanDreadKhan Member Posts: 3,857
    I assumed that a black hole would form, if an unstable one.
  • batoorbatoor Member Posts: 676
    So uhm like a few months ago I rewatched some Bond films. One of them was Moonraker and there was this space battle I had forgotten...

    So do you like this scene? Or is it just embarrassing to watch?xD

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG5v7ng0o4A
  • mlnevesemlnevese Member, Moderator Posts: 10,214
    I could comment about physics or some other hard facts but I'll just say that better special effects were available at the time...
  • FardragonFardragon Member Posts: 4,511
    mlnevese said:

    I could comment about physics or some other hard facts but I'll just say that better special effects were available at the time...

    Given that it was released two years after Star Wars, and in the same year as Star Trek TMP, definitely better effects where available...
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    Reminds me of a sci-fi movie on the Simpsons, when a breach was detected in the hull of a space ship:

    Astronaut 1: Space air is filling my lungs!

    Astronaut 1: *starts choking*

    Astronaut 2: Right. Goggles on.

    Astronaut 2: *puts on goggles*

    Astronaut 2: *hyperventilates*

    Astronaut 2: *calms down and lights a cigarette*
  • JoenSoJoenSo Member Posts: 910

    The night is darkest just before dawn

    Except it's not.
  • mlnevesemlnevese Member, Moderator Posts: 10,214
    JoenSo said:

    The night is darkest just before dawn

    Except it's not.
    Actually in some movies it's as light as the day... maybe because it was all recorded during the day and not at night...
  • SquireSquire Member Posts: 511
    mlnevese said:

    JoenSo said:

    The night is darkest just before dawn

    Except it's not.
    Actually in some movies it's as light as the day... maybe because it was all recorded during the day and not at night...
    That'll be down to all the torches burning constantly in braziers fixed to just about every wall imaginable.
  • BillyYankBillyYank Member Posts: 2,768
    Squire said:

    mlnevese said:

    JoenSo said:

    The night is darkest just before dawn

    Except it's not.
    Actually in some movies it's as light as the day... maybe because it was all recorded during the day and not at night...
    That'll be down to all the torches burning constantly in braziers fixed to just about every wall imaginable.
    Including walls where you would need a scaffold to refuel the damn things.
  • DreadKhanDreadKhan Member Posts: 3,857
    Big guys getting owned really easy... well aware size isn't the same as strength, but in many TV things, being bigger is straight up a disadvantage.
  • SquireSquire Member Posts: 511
    DreadKhan said:

    Big guys getting owned really easy... well aware size isn't the same as strength, but in many TV things, being bigger is straight up a disadvantage.

    Well everyone knows, big = slow and clumsy while small = super-fast ninja. ;)
  • KamigoroshiKamigoroshi Member Posts: 5,870

    The entire concept of dragonslaying.

    It's a fucking dragon.

    What do you think happens when you try to kill an elephant with a sword?

    The same that happened to Jon Quixote while attacking windmills? Only that those are moving, 12 ton herd windmills which fight back with everything they got?

    It gets even more annoying with man vs. kaiju class monster battles in video games: no matter how big they are, after dozens of turns and countless healing potions the hero and his party always wins the day! But what would happen when you are facing Godzilla with a bazooka in real life? You get stepped on. The end.
  • SkatanSkatan Member, Moderator Posts: 5,352
    Scene: mid day, sun is up.
    "Let's go to Place X just ten minutes drive from here"
    Scene: Exiting car, it's pitch black and obviously 12 hours have passed.

    You can see it in EXACTLY EVERY MOVIE EVER FILMED! WHY O WHY are directors doing this over and over again? It looks so stupid and completely breaks any immersion.
  • mlnevesemlnevese Member, Moderator Posts: 10,214
    edited August 2017

    The entire concept of dragonslaying.

    It's a fucking dragon.

    What do you think happens when you try to kill an elephant with a sword?

    Would you lose a fight against a squirrel?

    Is it a vorpal squirrel? :)

    The only place I ever saw dragons receiving the kind of respect they deserve was on the RPG Rolemaster. If you were up against a dragon you'd probably be reaching for a blank character sheet and the rulebooks... The only way to fight them there were with siege weapons and you'd have a lot of dead people anyway.
  • OlvynChuruOlvynChuru Member Posts: 3,079
    There's also the ridiculous unused Prismatic Dragon from Neverwinter Nights 1. That thing has 70 AC, over 1000 HP, and some nasty melee attacks. I tried to fight one with my level 28 Fighter/Weapon Master who had just beaten Hordes of the Underdark. She had a +10 scythe that could do hundreds of damage on a critical hit, not to mention a lot of other epic equipment. The dragon killed her.
  • FardragonFardragon Member Posts: 4,511
    Skatan said:

    Scene: mid day, sun is up.
    "Let's go to Place X just ten minutes drive from here"
    Scene: Exiting car, it's pitch black and obviously 12 hours have passed.

    You can see it in EXACTLY EVERY MOVIE EVER FILMED! WHY O WHY are directors doing this over and over again? It looks so stupid and completely breaks any immersion.


    This is particularly annoying when it's a place you know well and the filmaker gets the geography messed up. It's usually London for me (as in Thor: Dark World), but Miss Peragrine's Home for Peculiar Children managed to mess up Blackpool.
  • ChnapyChnapy Member Posts: 360
    I'm fairly certain i'd lose a fight with a squirrel. Which is why you don't see me picking up fights with the bloody bastards.
    Oh, sure, no Humanslaying would happen, I'm tough. And also human-sized, so there's that. But if I tried to approach it, the squirrel'd probably bite me and then scamper on its little legs, or just scamper straight away.
  • KamigoroshiKamigoroshi Member Posts: 5,870
    edited August 2017
    And then there are those stories with both fat male and female protagonists that suddenly get popular overnight as soon as they loose crazy amount of weight. For no apparently reason. Which also gets old very fast for the audience.

    Or a fat dude MC gets run over by a truck and some bored god decides to let that poor sod reincarnate into a fantasy world as, you guessed it, a crazily handsome youth. All while having the most outrageous cheesy skills from the getgo that allows him to punch down the mightiest of titans.

    Which brings me to another trope I learned to hate over the years:

    Fantasy worlds with game elements and GUI Touch Screen!

    No, seriously... just, why...? I could understand it if the setting were to involve a Virtual Reality video game, like in .hack// or Matrix. But any author who implements the notorious Status Screen into alternative realities/ low fantasy worlds/high fantasy worlds/parallel universes/Earth in different time epochs/ect. gets a clear OUT from me. I see no appeal whatsoever in fantastical Real Life mixed with GUI game elements. Just thinking of Conan navigating through his Inventory Screen to search for his spare loincloth while reading the stories gives me the creeps! *brrr*
  • ArdanisArdanis Member Posts: 1,736
    edited August 2017
    Problem with being fat is that it's a negative medical condition. I for one see that trope as means to discourage people from neglecting their health (easy for me to say because I'm not susceptible to gaining weight, but still).


    Fantasy worlds with game elements and GUI Touch Screen!

    No, seriously... just, why...? I could understand it if the setting were to involve a Virtual Reality video game, like in .hack// or Matrix. But any author who implements the notorious Status Screen into alternative realities/ low fantasy worlds/high fantasy worlds/parallel universes/Earth in different time epochs/ect. gets a clear OUT from me. I see no appeal whatsoever in fantastical Real Life mixed with GUI game elements. Just thinking of Conan navigating through his Inventory Screen to search for his spare loincloth while reading the stories gives me the creeps! *brrr*
    Could you share a few examples? I'm genuinely interested now to see it outside of SAO-like universe :)
  • FardragonFardragon Member Posts: 4,511

    @Kurona: Have you seen Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them? Ostensibly the main character is a wizard whose name I don't remember, but the fat "sidekick," named Jake, is actually the most endearing and lovable character in the movie. His weight is never mentioned.

    Jake doesn't even have a role in the plot, but he's the best part of the movie.

    It's kind of connected to his ambition to open a bakery though. Never trust a thin baker.
  • batoorbatoor Member Posts: 676
    edited August 2017
    I've always disliked Virtual reality/mmo-ish stories overall. I don't even like mmos that much, but I can at least understand why people enjoy it. I can't say I see the appeal or the point of a story centered around an mmo though, yet somehow the market for those stories is massive in asia(well korea, japan and china at least)
  • KamigoroshiKamigoroshi Member Posts: 5,870
    @Ardanis There are lots of both Japanese and Koeran light novels and web novels utilizing such game elements. On top of my head:

    Re: Monster
    Goblin Kingdom
    Evil God Average
    The Dungeon Seeker
    Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka?
    Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken
    I Reincarnated Into a Vending Machine
    Death Marching to the Parallel World Rhapsody
    I Aim to Be an Adventurer with the Jobclass of “Jobless”
    The Demon Lord’s building a city! ~The strongest Dungeon is a modern day city~
  • DreadKhanDreadKhan Member Posts: 3,857
    Fardragon said:

    @Kurona: Have you seen Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them? Ostensibly the main character is a wizard whose name I don't remember, but the fat "sidekick," named Jake, is actually the most endearing and lovable character in the movie. His weight is never mentioned.

    Jake doesn't even have a role in the plot, but he's the best part of the movie.

    It's kind of connected to his ambition to open a bakery though. Never trust a thin baker.
    Truth in Forum Posting apparently, nobody trusted me when I was at a healthier weight.
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