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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited October 2017
    The user and all related content has been deleted.
    Post edited by [Deleted User] on
    lolienkaguanaJuliusBorisov
  • inethineth Member Posts: 707
    How can we make spoilers with titles now?

    Like we used to be able to do by writing
    [spoiler=Some Title]Some Content[/spoiler]
  • Troodon80Troodon80 Member, Developer Posts: 4,110
    edited April 2016
    @ineth, there is no way to do that.
    inethlolienJuliusBorisov
  • inethineth Member Posts: 707
    edited April 2016
    Columns and tables test:

    aaa
    aa11
    bb22
    bbb
    ddd
    eee
    fff
    ggg
    hhh
    iii
    jjj
    kkk
  • Troodon80Troodon80 Member, Developer Posts: 4,110

    Testing markdown...


    Bold
    Italic
    Strikethrough
    Bold and Italic
    Bold, Italic, and Strikethrough

    1. Item 1
    2. Item 2
    3. Item 3
    • Item 1
    • Item 2
    • Item 3

    **Bold** _Italic_ ~~Strikethrough~~

    @Troodon80 said:
    Test test test

    This is a spoiler.

    Heading 1

    Heading 2

    Heading 3

    Heading 4

    Heading 5

    Alternative Heading 1

    Alternative Heading 1

    Beamdog Forum

    Profile Image

    First Header Second Header
    Content from cell 1 Content from cell 2
  • Troodon80Troodon80 Member, Developer Posts: 4,110
    Huh. Well, it turns out with a bit of hackery you can pick whichever editor format you want on the fly.
    lolien
  • AncientCowboyAncientCowboy Member Posts: 199
    edited May 2016

    Got it figured out.

    Post edited by AncientCowboy on
  • Troodon80Troodon80 Member, Developer Posts: 4,110
    @AncientCowboy,

    Doesn't look like you can link directly to an image on Google drive. You'd need the image URL, not the sharing URL.
    AncientCowboyJuliusBorisovlolien
  • AncientCowboyAncientCowboy Member Posts: 199
    @Troodon80 Thanks. Time to hack around and see if I can figure it out.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    edited July 2016
    Username said:

    This is where the quote text would normally go.

    (everyone else just ignore this. I'm demonstrating to someone how they can fix a broken quotation).
    Post edited by elminster on
    lolien
  • mf2112mf2112 Member, Moderator Posts: 1,919
    elminster said:

    Username said:

    This is where the quote text would normally go.

    (everyone else just ignore this. I'm demonstrating to someone how they can fix a broken quotation).
    Too late....
    lolienelminster
  • Troodon80Troodon80 Member, Developer Posts: 4,110
    And I've only just realised that Vanilla has broken the forum formatting yet again. This is fun, isn't it. They strip out style and class attributes.
    lolien
  • inethineth Member Posts: 707
    @Troodon80
    Ouch, I noticed it only now.

    All the fancy formatting for headings and tables I made in threads like this, is gone... :disappointed:

    Is there anything that Beamdog can do on their end to re-enable support for CSS styles in posts?



    Rant:
    I just don't understand why Vanilla is so over-zealous in making life hard for spammers, that they see no problem with making life hard for legit users as well.

    It's not just that they retroactively remove features on a whim that people have relied on, it's also things like the automatic addition of rel="nofollow" to all links, which is bad for googleability.
    E.g. an excellent way for people to find BG2 portraits is to use this Google Image Search query which lists images with the exact size of 210x330 pixels – but it won't find anything from the aforementioned portrait thread on this forum, because the "nofollow" prevents google from indexing the links to the full-resolution images.

    Spammers are usually caught and banned within minutes/hours, so it would totally suffice to have those kinds of restrictions for new users only, and give more leeway to users who have proven themselves not to be spammers by making posts / getting likes without getting banned.
    /Rant
    lolienGrammarsalad
  • inethineth Member Posts: 707
    edited September 2016
    Some tests with the limited HTML support that still remains.

    Headings, font styles, and link anchors:

    Section 1

    ...

    Section 2

    ...

    Section 3

    ...

    Section 4

    ...

    Section 5


    Font size can only be specified in very coarse steps, and there's no way to do text shadow/glow, but it's workable.

    Tables:

    aaaa11
    bb2222
    ccc3
     
    aaaa11
    bb2222
    ccc3


    The "border", "cellpadding", "cellspacing" attributes don't seem to do anything, so with CSS styles being removed by the forum, I don't see a way to get a table with cell borders or with sensible padding. :/ At least background colors work.
    Troodon80lolienJuliusBorisov
  • lolienlolien Member, Moderator, Translator (NDA) Posts: 3,108
    edited December 2017
    And it seems, that i have to edit the picture size manually and upload each size separatley:
    imageimage
    Post edited by lolien on
    JuliusBorisovRodrian
  • Troodon80Troodon80 Member, Developer Posts: 4,110
    @lolien, just use "width=123" in your img HTML element.

    Example:

    imageimageimageimage
    JuliusBorisovlolien
  • lolienlolien Member, Moderator, Translator (NDA) Posts: 3,108
    Thanks @Troodon80 , that's good to know!
    JuliusBorisov
  • inethineth Member Posts: 707
    Something strange is going on with tables:



    image

    second cell, line 1
    second cell, line 2
    second cell, line 3

    image second cell, line 1
    second cell, line 2
    second cell, line 3


    How can I get it to show the contents of the two cells side-by-side without leading space?
  • inethineth Member Posts: 707
    edited October 2016
    I found out the cause: It's because the forum style sets "vertical-align: baseline" on the table cells, and images count as in-line elements, so the first line of text in the second cell is aligned to the baseline of the image.

    Apparently it should be possible to override this by adding valign="top" or style="vertical-align:top;" to the table cell with the image, or style="display:block;" to the image element itself, but the forum software foils all of that.
    Post edited by ineth on
    lolien
  • inethineth Member Posts: 707
    Heh, it seems there was another forum update, because table cells suddenly have some padding now... :)
    lolien
  • brusbrus Member Posts: 944
    edited November 2016
    How does text shadow work now ?
    *some text*
  • Troodon80Troodon80 Member, Developer Posts: 4,110
    @brus, it doesn't. Not any more. Classes and styles are removed when posting.
    bruslolien
  • EdvinEdvin Member, Translator (NDA) Posts: 3,244
    edited May 2017
  • inethineth Member Posts: 707
    edited April 2019
    EDIT: Just tested something...

    abcdef
    Post edited by ineth on
  • argent77argent77 Member Posts: 3,431
    edited August 2018
    Testing indentations with <code>
    Not indented Indented by spaces Indented by additional spaces Indented by tab
    Testing indentations with <pre>
    Not indented
    Indented by spaces
    Indented by additional spaces
    Indented by tab
    Post edited by argent77 on
    Alonso
  • inethineth Member Posts: 707
    edited April 2019
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  • inethineth Member Posts: 707
    edited April 2019
    It looks like new posts no longer support HTML tags of any kind, only BBCode.
    Has anyone figured out how to do the following things with BBCode?


    Text size (e.g. for headings/sub-headings)

    I've tried:
    abcdef
    [style size=6]abcdef[/style]
    [style size="30px"]abcdef[/style]
    [h1]abcdef[/h1]
    [heading]abcdef[/heading]


    Font

    I've tried:
    abcdef


    Tables

    I've tried:

    cell 1cell 222
    cell 333cell 4



    Alonso
  • AlonsoAlonso Member Posts: 806
    I'm completely lost with the post formatting. It looks like there's no Rich Text, no HTML support, no BBCode support... Does anybody know what works these days?
  • inethineth Member Posts: 707
    edited May 2019
    Does anybody know what works these days?
    Alonso wrote: »
    Does anybody know what works these days?

    Only a small subset of BBCode, it seems... :/

    I found this thread on the Vanilla Forum software's own user forums, and... bad news, they're removing formatting features on purpose. Vanilla staff member "Linc", Director of Development, writes in that thread:


    "We removed 'size' as a feature due to accessibility issues. Allowing members to dictate the size at which others read text is a bad experience for low-vision users, as well as users with reading challenges."

    "We don't support the 'color' option in the our next-generation editor. That said, color blindness rarely if ever inhibits a person from reading. That's more an aesthetics argument."


    I'm *face palm*ing so hard.

    Usability issues can be handled on the user end (e.g. by zooming in with your browser)!
    Or if people e.g. started to abuse tiny font sizes, it could be handled by moderators telling them to stop doing that!
    There was no problem in need of a drastic engine-level "solution" here.
    Same with the "aesthetics argument" - let users and mods decide that themselves!

    The [size] and [color] tags can be (and have been) used to improve readability a lot - for example, to break up longer posts using subheadings that stand out visually. How does removing this option help anyone, including people with reading disabilities?

    But nooooo, Vanilla devs gotta march on in their crusade against formatting options, for Social Justice (or something)...

    QSoX3Il.gif

    PS: I'm calling it, support for embedded images will be next to go.
    lolienJuliusBorisovZaghoul
  • AlonsoAlonso Member Posts: 806
    @ineth: Thank you for clarifying that. Any idea of which features are still usable?
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