IWDEE - Final version

cryocore · September 2014

Based on the time frames of the previous releases we should see a fully realized version in 2020. You know after the first release, then the 1.1,1.2, and eventual 1.3 updates that almost give us a stable and bug free game.

I mean how is BGEE looking these days? Still not quite cooked is it, and BGIIEE well dont get me started.

I WANT to be excited, but with each month I become less and less interested and more dubious of your ability to deliver on your promises.

Alexisisinneed · September 2014

Oh were doing this again? And here I go pulling out my party hats and blowing up balloons. I was also planning to bake a cake, but I guess I should just go mope in a corner because all the bugs that have ruin my hours upon hours of gameplay that I have invested into these series.

stygga · September 2014

I actually just got done with BG2 SoA portion today, and I must say, I encountered zero bugs that stuck out. there are graphical glitches with devas, like there were in the original, but other than that I can think of nothing that happened to hinder my gameplay experience at all. So I'm not quite sure what exactly you're getting at.

comport9 · September 2014

Nonsense threads like this should be locked/deleted. If you don't think the Enhanced Edition is better than the originals, then don't bother with them and stick with the originals. I played through BGEE bug free, and am playing through BG2EE and have encountered one insignificant bug.

Do yourself and everyone a favour, if you don't like it, don't buy it. The rest of us will enjoy it all the same.

CoM_Solaufein · September 2014

Bugs?

JuliusBorisov · September 2014

cryocore said:
I mean how is BGEE looking these days? Still not quite cooked is it

A very tasty dish, obviously from a 3-Michelin star restaurant.

IWDEE? Delicious with a bunch of ice and cream, if being cooked for a month.

Headbomb · September 2014

"I mean how is BGEE looking these days?"

Better than ever? 1.2 was really solid, and 1.3 is fantabulous in just about every possible way. And with IWD:EE announced, there's now the possibility of sharing assets between IWD and BG (animations, spells, etc...). And there's been this big project on updating/fixing map art, although I'm unsure what the status is on this. I booted up vanilla BG and TuTu BG the other day for comparisons, and I'd never go back to either even if you paid me. Modding capabilities are also greatly increased.

BG2:EE is in OK state. Not great, but the next patch should bring it from OK to BGEE 1.3 levels of quality, and from the ticket tracker, there are very, VERY nice bug fixes (which I can't disclose due to NDAs) that cover longstanding issues in vanilla BG2 (and which arent' covered by fixpacks either), and it'll have the latest version of the engine (i.e. improved over BGEE1.3), with the associated increase in modding capabilities.

I have no idea what the state of IWD:EE will be at launch, but as far as crashes and such go, it'll likely use that same updated engine, and thus be equally stable. It could be as buggy as BGEE/BG2EE upon release, but it would surprise me if they did given all the experience Beamdog has acquired over the last few years, and that most (although not all) of the bugs were related to the new content. And it will again greatly boost modding capabilities given it'll share the EE engine, which would mean certain mods like SCS could be used with IWD. Plus you know, the updated UI.

If you want to be safe, don't pre-order, wait for reviews and initial feedback, and if it's not up to your standards, stick to vanilla until it gets patched to your standards.

Silverstar · September 2014

I understand the "track record" mentality you have going there. BG:EE's state at release was... less than stellar. BGII:EE was a lot better though and would've actually been great if it had been patched. Many people (not me unfortunately) don't have any trouble with it mind you so that makes it mediocre rather than terrible. So if we go by the track record of one bad release and one mediocre, we don't have reason to suspect it's going downhill to bad again.

element · September 2014

I don't know why people are getting down on the op
seems like a pretty reasonable concern to me. Its easy to assume that because you have experienced few bugs that your experience is the universal one. I bought bg2EE on release and i'm yet to have a smooth run through despite 3 attempts

Personally I wont be picking this up until its confirmed by numerous trustworthy sources as being more or less bug free

Nimran · September 2014

It really comes down to personal experience. I had no issues with my game, but that doesn't mean every game works.

LiamEsler · September 2014

I think it's a pretty reasonable concern!

That said, we have worked very hard to overcome the issues that surrounded the launches of BG:EE and BGII:EE, and we aren't under the same restrictions we were for those titles. If we determine that IWD:EE isn't up to scratch, we'll just work on it until it is.

I'd recommend waiting a few days and checking the reviews, just like any game. I'm not a fan of day-1 purchases myself, and we don't expect anyone to buy IWD:EE first up. If you're unsure, wait and see. I hope you'll be pleased with what we've done.

Adul · September 2014

@LiamEsler And here I am, a sucker who has pre-ordered all 3 of you guys' Infinity Engine games.

BG:EE and BG2:EE obviously each had a pretty rough start. What keeps me coming back, however, is Beamdog's enthusiasm for these classics. While the initial state of the games are not quite ideal, so far I could count on the devs to revisit the outstanding issues and fix them, because they seem to care about the state of these games as much as I do. Usually it takes... well, quite a while, but at least it's happening. Which is more than I can say about some other developers out there.

CoryNewb · September 2014

I don't remember the last bug I had in BG1 or 2.... *Shrugs*

PARTY TIME! WOOOOOHOOOOO!

Adul · September 2014

CoryNewb said:
I don't remember the last bug I had in BG1 or 2.... *Shrugs*

You should have seen our last Black Pits 2 multiplayer session. Hoo boy, that was quite a ride! I ended up having to relinquish control of my characters before and after each battle or else the game would just make my characters disappear. Forever. Plus I couldn't use any of my spells or special abilities since they were disabled even during the fights! But we made due without them. BG2 multiplayer on average is not that bad, but we've had quite a few hiccups similar to those even in the vanilla portion of the game.

Anduin · September 2014

In the year 2056 I predict BG will achieve its ultimate expression as a fully immersible virtual reality body suit interactive game that is bug free...

...

Okay. A fantasy! Bug free indeed...

mlnevese · September 2014

Isn't 2056 the year IE games became self-aware and dominated the world?

elminster · September 2014

mlnevese said:
Isn't 2056 the year IE games became self-aware and dominated the world?

How can they? Tiax rules all!

Nimran · September 2014

@elminster‌ maybe Tiax rules IE.

booinyoureyes · September 2014

mlnevese said:
Isn't 2056 the year IE games became self-aware and dominated the world?

We must send Jan Jansen back in time wearing the Big Metal Unit to stop this from happening

CoryNewb · September 2014

Adul said:

CoryNewb said:
I don't remember the last bug I had in BG1 or 2.... *Shrugs*
You should have seen our last Black Pits 2 multiplayer session. Hoo boy, that was quite a ride! I ended up having to relinquish control of my characters before and after each battle or else the game would just make my characters disappear. Forever. Plus I couldn't use any of my spells or special abilities since they were disabled even during the fights! But we made due without them. BG2 multiplayer on average is not that bad, but we've had quite a few hiccups similar to those even in the vanilla portion of the game.

My multiplaying was limited, and it was a while back on bg1. We had some bugs but had fun too. I look forward to some IWD multiplayer

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JuliusBorisov · September 2014

LiamEsler said:
I'm not a fan of day-1 purchases myself, and we don't expect anyone to buy IWD:EE first up.

After reading FAQ and seeing the screenshots to me that was like:

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　＼＼ Λ＿Λ
　　＼( 'ㅅ' ) THAT INSTABUY
　　　 >　⌒ヽ
　　　/ 　へ＼
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　　ﾚ　ノ　　ヽ_つ
　　/　/
　 /　/|
　(　(ヽ
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　| 丿＼ ⌒)
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ノ )　　Lﾉ
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deltago · September 2014

Seriously. If that is your issue, wait for the company to announce a final patch before purchasing the game, or any game for that matter.

CoryNewb · September 2014

bengoshi said:

LiamEsler said:
I'm not a fan of day-1 purchases myself, and we don't expect anyone to buy IWD:EE first up.
After reading FAQ and seeing the screenshots to me that was like:

⊂_ヽ
　＼＼ Λ＿Λ
　　＼( 'ㅅ' ) THAT INSTABUY
　　　 >　⌒ヽ
　　　/ 　へ＼
　　 /　　/　＼＼
　　ﾚ　ノ　　ヽ_つ
　　/　/
　 /　/|
　(　(ヽ
　|　|、＼
　| 丿＼ ⌒)
　| |　　) /
ノ )　　Lﾉ
(_／

3 pre-order badges show that Liam and I do not have the same opinion and day 1 purchases!

shawne · September 2014

stygga said:
I actually just got done with BG2 SoA portion today, and I must say, I encountered zero bugs that stuck out. there are graphical glitches with devas, like there were in the original, but other than that I can think of nothing that happened to hinder my gameplay experience at all. So I'm not quite sure what exactly you're getting at.

I've never understood this argument. There is a list of confirmed bugs on this very forum. Good for you that you didn't encounter any of them, I guess?

IWDEE - Final version

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