A Level 2 Fighter / Level 7 Thief is way better than even a Level 11 Swashbuckler.
Even if it were an argument of compromise, I would take a Swasbuckler that had 5 to 10 less points to distribute per level in Thief skills if he had the +½ Attack per Round from Specialization.
ANYONE who have access to weapon specialization get +½ APR, except Swashbuckler. That +½ APR is main purpose weapon specialization and present Swashbuckler is worse melee fighter then Assassin ( poison + deadly backstabing ).
ANYONE who have access to weapon specialization get +½ APR, except Swashbuckler. That +½ APR is main purpose weapon specialization and present Swashbuckler is worse melee fighter then Assassin ( poison + deadly backstabing ).
As it stands, Fighter Classes and sub-classes get specialization bonuses.
Swasbuckler is the only non-fighter class capable of achieving Specialization.
If you get him at lvl 12, he also has specialization in longswords.
And importing a bard from vanilla BG1 to BG2 and turning them into a blade occasionally allows them to specialize in 1hd swords except for short swords.
It's rare though and you won't know if it'll work or not unless you try putting multiple points.
I still come back to this thread after all this time and just can't stop seriously loling. There's not enough of this in the world for how I feel about this thread.
A swashbuckler is absolutely incredible in ToB. By dual wielding Belm and Scarlet Ninja-to, wearing gauntlets of extraordinary specialization, and using Improved Haste, you get 9 attacks per round. Ouch. The swashbuckler's main advantage over a fighter/thief is that by level 40 the swashbuckler gets +9 to damage, thac0 and armor class, I think. One big advantage that swashbucklers have over stalkers is that once the former gets Use Any Item, they can use scrolls of Stoneskin and Protection from Magic Weapons. They really can't be compared to each other. UAI helps swashbucklers so much.
A swashbuckler is absolutely incredible in ToB. By dual wielding Belm and Scarlet Ninja-to, wearing gauntlets of extraordinary specialization, and using Improved Haste, you get 9 attacks per round.
Doesn't it seem a bit silly, to determine the strength of classes according to the items that you give them?
A swashbuckler is absolutely incredible in ToB. By dual wielding Belm and Scarlet Ninja-to, wearing gauntlets of extraordinary specialization, and using Improved Haste, you get 9 attacks per round.
Doesn't it seem a bit silly, to determine the strength of classes according to the items that you give them?
A swashbuckler is absolutely incredible in ToB. By dual wielding Belm and Scarlet Ninja-to, wearing gauntlets of extraordinary specialization, and using Improved Haste, you get 9 attacks per round.
Doesn't it seem a bit silly, to determine the strength of classes according to the items that you give them?
Especially since there is assuredly not an oversupply of the really juicy scrolls iirc. Yes, its an advantage, but it certainly isn't an option you can use regularly.
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Even if it were an argument of compromise, I would take a Swasbuckler that had 5 to 10 less points to distribute per level in Thief skills if he had the +½ Attack per Round from Specialization.
That +½ APR is main purpose weapon specialization and present Swashbuckler is worse melee fighter then Assassin ( poison + deadly backstabing ).
Swasbuckler is the only non-fighter class capable of achieving Specialization.
He should definitely get +½ APR.
And importing a bard from vanilla BG1 to BG2 and turning them into a blade occasionally allows them to specialize in 1hd swords except for short swords.
It's rare though and you won't know if it'll work or not unless you try putting multiple points.