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Sword Coast Legends. Is this the spiritual successor to NWN?

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  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,754
    I have to admit, a price of 239,99 USD for a Collector's Edition is a bit too much. For that price, a giant miniature space hamster could be included into the pack.
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    Wait, is that a comma? For that much money, the giant miniature space hamster had better be a darn good cook, and he had better come with a handler who is easy on the eyes.
  • SeldarSeldar Member Posts: 438
    People also said "spiritual successor to BG" before POE came out...

    huh... lol
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    Dragon Age Origins also used that line as well. So we will see :)
  • VallmyrVallmyr Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 2,459
    edited June 2015
    I'd just enjoy more games of this genre that are optimized to work on PC as opposed to the console control atrocity that DA:Inquisition used.
  • mlnevesemlnevese Member, Moderator Posts: 10,214
    It's a good thing I bought Inquisition for my PS3... The controls in a computer are really terrible...
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,754
    edited June 2015
    The release date for Sword Coast Legends has been set to the 8th of September 2015.

    http://store.steampowered.com/app/325600/ You can pre-purchase it now, with a 13% discount or go for the Deluxe version, which has no discount.

    Also, the E3 trailer is available.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=ByNCxY3QDag

    In the official announcement n-Space say that Xbox One and PlayStation 4 versions of the game will become available late 2015. Maybe now we know the reason of them going for cooldowns and such things...

    https://swordcoast.com/content/sword-coast-legends-coming-xbox-one-and-playstation®4
    Post edited by JuliusBorisov on
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    Has anyone found any useful links or information on character creation or customization? I don't personally know anything about 5th edition and I understand that this is going to be a modified version of that system. Do we know if there will be anywhere near the level of customization of something like BG or NWN?

    With NWN there were whole communities happily obsessing about 'Builds' and level progression etc... Anything like that exist yet?
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,754
    @the_spyder There're no major discussions about such things as character creation or customization, maybe because there's no major information available from the game itself: there's no open beta-testing, to begin with.

    You can read these threads if you want to know about the game's classes:

    https://forums.swordcoast.com/index.php?/topic/1733-why-just-the-generic-classes/
    https://forums.swordcoast.com/index.php?/topic/1763-two-questions-multi-classing-and-barbarians/

    Also, https://forums.swordcoast.com/index.php?/topic/1740-e3-2015-trailer-are-we-not-talking-about-this/?p=11537 contains an amazing in details post about one of the companions, based on the E3 trailer. That page as a whole has a lot in terms of the game's dealing with items and stats.
  • VallmyrVallmyr Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 2,459
    I do hope that they implement a proper animate dead that requires corpses to use. I'm at least relived to know 100% we'll have the Necromancer Wizard specialization thanks to the "Necromancer with a heart of Gold." <3.

    YOU'RE DOING IT RIGHT GUYS! Necromancy doesn't have to be evil! n_n
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    @bengoshi - Thanks for that information. I will take a look at the links and see what is there.

    it is my hope that they aren't skimping on things like character creation and simply not talking about it in the hopes that they sucker people into buying it before someone reviews it. But that could quite simply be me being cynical.

    It does worry me a bit though because with both NWN and NWN2, there was LOADS of buzz about characters and character creation by this late date. Even if there isn't any concrete information, I'd still expect rampant speculation. But with nothing, I wonder if that is foreshadowing.
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,754
    From the E3

    PC World:

    "All in all, it’s looking great! I don’t love the 3D aesthetic quite as much as Pillars of Eternity’s Infinity Engine-esque art, but the game still looks pretty good (at least as good as Wasteland 2 and Divinity: Original Sin) and it plays well. Some of the animations still need more feedback and movement could be a bit more fluid, but overall I have no huge complaints on that front—it played like an isometric CRPG.

    It’s almost like the genre never died in the first place. Almost."

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/2937233/why-sword-coast-legends-is-the-digital-dungeon-dragons-rpg-youve-been-waiting-for.html

    VGChartz:

    "Excited about the prospects of what DM mode could entail, I asked n-Space the extent to which Masters could design stories, questlines, and combat scenarios - could players make their own “Baldur’s Gates”? In talking with n-Space, they stated that, theoretically, players could write stories and quest-lines long enough to comprise the length of an entire game. I asked if other campaign settings were on the cards for future Sword Coast Legends content, and I was told “absolutely” by n-Space."

    http://www.vgchartz.com/article/259597/sword-coast-legends-the-surprise-stand-out-player-creation-experience-of-e3/

    WCCF Tech:

    "Sword Coast Legends wants to bring the true dungeon master experience into the digital realm, and I truly think it’s succeeded. Already in this early form it has all the features you’d want. The direction they’re taking is phenomenal, and it allows for new ways to enjoy D&D, beyond the table and with absolutely everything you’d want."

    http://wccftech.com/e3-2015-hands-sword-coast-legends-ultimate-digital-dd-experience/

    Technology Tell:

    “For far too long, passionate and dedicated Mac and Linux RPG gamers have been left out in the cold, forced to watch from the sidelines as the industry focused efforts on just a select few platforms. That ends today,” said Dan Tudge, President of n-Space and Director for Sword Coast Legends. “With Sword Coast Legends, we are dedicated to delivering exactly the sort of classic, D&D, RPG gaming experience fans on every platform have been clamoring for. More importantly, we’re committed to providing the community with the largest possible pool of adventurers and prospective Dungeon Masters by ensuring that all gamers can play together regardless of which operating system they use.”

    http://www.technologytell.com/apple/151299/e3-2015-master-dungeons-sword-coast-legends/

    Plus there're two videos with hands-on play available:

    https://youtu.be/F6StxYO_6hI

    https://youtu.be/lGfAajHj0OM
  • AedanAedan Member, Translator (NDA) Posts: 8,551
    *Sigh* Still no news about localization... :(
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,754
    The game's release date has been moved.

    The game is hitting PC, Mac and Linux on September 29th now, not September 8th as previously planned.

    “We’re extremely excited to show everyone what we’ve been up to with Sword Coast Legends, but it looks like our dungeon bosses need a few more hit points … Larethar needs even more of a Scottish accent … and the game itself could use a touch ‘more cowbell,” said Dan Tudge.

    “All kidding aside, our fans deserve nothing less than whatever it takes on our part to deliver the compelling roleplaying dynamic of Dungeons & Dragons tabletop to the world of cooperative multiplayer video games. If that means the game needs a few additional weeks of balancing, tuning and general polish — so be it.”

    http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/08/08/sword-coast-legends-delayed/

    Here a fine interview can be watched:

    http://m.ign.com/videos/2015/08/08/sword-coast-legends-interview-ign-live-gamescom-2015

    The interview gives a full feeling of the game like if you play it yourself (maybe due to the video's resolution and size of the picture).
  • VallmyrVallmyr Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 2,459
    Can't wait for the game to release! Going to be SUPER hype once they release DLC or whatever for all the classes and races! I really like 5e.
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    Very nice, I hope it launches in perfect order :)
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    I've adopted the philosophy that it will be a mediocre 'Action' style RPG with some limited role playing, but it could still be loads of fun. I am thinking more Diablo and less Neverwinter Nights.

    I am prepared to be wrong on that, but that is my expectation going in.

    And @FinneousPJ - LOL. When do any RPG games (or indeed most video games of any description) 'Launch in perfect order'? But we live in hope.
  • VallmyrVallmyr Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 2,459

    I've adopted the philosophy that it will be a mediocre 'Action' style RPG with some limited role playing, but it could still be loads of fun. I am thinking more Diablo and less Neverwinter Nights.

    I am prepared to be wrong on that, but that is my expectation going in.

    And @FinneousPJ - LOL. When do any RPG games (or indeed most video games of any description) 'Launch in perfect order'? But we live in hope.

    I have hope only because it seemed it's been confirmed DM's can create full stories in offline mode without being limited by DM threat. So even if the main campaign sucks there will be that one guy that decides, "You know what would be cool? Let's re-create all of Icewind Dale II in this engine!"

    I still need to try the NWN2 version of Icewind Dale and Baldur's Gate eventually.
  • the_spyderthe_spyder Member Posts: 5,018
    Vallmyr said:

    "You know what would be cool? Let's re-create all of Icewind Dale II in this engine!"

    Hey, that would be cool if that level of customization exists. I guess we will see when it comes out.
  • FardragonFardragon Member Posts: 4,511
    Doesn't have the facility to create conversation trees, from what I hear.
  • DeeDee Member Posts: 10,447
    Conversation trees area really hard, in all fairness. Not necessarily to write, but if you're designing a system from the ground up... Yikes.
  • iKrivetkoiKrivetko Member Posts: 934

    I would imagine that BG2 wasn't done because the task is simply too daunting.

    It's actually a WIP.
    https://www.facebook.com/BaldursGateReloaded
  • ShapiroKeatsDarkMageShapiroKeatsDarkMage Member Posts: 2,428
    What do you think of this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOiZGWeGxVI
  • CaloNordCaloNord Member Posts: 1,809
    edited August 2015
    It looks like it plays a bit like NWN 2 or Neverwinter with a party. Very interesting. I had no idea this was even a thing. I'm very interested in the Dungeon master mode. If I actually had friends that could be a really fun mode to play in me thinks.

    Edit: I found some more! :D This actually looks like a lot of fun! I love the set of tools they have given the DM. The ability to build the environment just ahead of the team and set flavour texts as well as tweak the difficulty of the encounters on the fly. That is just beautiful! It looks like it's been very well thought out and streamlined to be quick and simple to use. Looks quite polished. :) Love it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PUbc3ofBgY
  • ShapiroKeatsDarkMageShapiroKeatsDarkMage Member Posts: 2,428
    I'm dissapointed that only 5 races and 6 classes are avaiable. I want to play as a Dragonborn damn it!
  • ShapiroKeatsDarkMageShapiroKeatsDarkMage Member Posts: 2,428
    I'm dissapointed that only 5 races and 6 classes are avaiable. I want to play as a Dragonborn damn it!
    Also i'm not a big fan of multyplayer.
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    @ShapiroKeatsDarkMage I think they will patch in more classes and races in time.
  • CaloNordCaloNord Member Posts: 1,809
    I only use 'Recent Discussions' to find topics so I didn't even see it there. @ShapiroKeatsDarkMage might want to see if a mod will merge 'em. :)

    But I do stand-by my above comments of awe at it's awesomeness.

    Just for the record.
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