That is the obvious explanation, yes. Although I'd still think Serevok's acolytes or Ragefast and/or Ramazith would make people notice. They're not powerful on the level of the Iron Throne leaders, but they're important enough that you'd think the powers that be would at least notice.
Oh, I agree.
There is alot of wanton murder going on around Baldur's Gate when you think about it.
* In the Helm and Cloak a band of adventurers tries to kill you. You leave the tavern, in the rich part of town, full of corpses. Nobody bats an eye.
* In the same rich part of town, you break into the house of Louise and Laerta. For that quest you blindly murder either a mage or druid...nobody checks in on the murder.
* Ragefast, as you mentioned, can be killed in his home without any investigating.
* You can murder Jardak in his locked home without the guards coming.
* Ramazith can be killed in his tower, or outside of it, without the guards caring.
* You can kill the entire temple of Umberlee without the authorities getting involved.
* As you mentioned, you can slaughter your way through the Iron Throne building, and the law enforcement turns around to hire you.
* Arkion and Nemphre can be killed in their homes as well.
I'm sure there is more. But you can get away with quite a lot of home invasions and murder in Baldur's Gate without the authorities ever tracking you down.
Honestly, "commoner hivemind" was tongue-in-cheek on my part, but the more I think about it, the more it seems like the best (Watsonian) explanation. Somehow, most normal people (and a small number of extraordinary ones) are telepathically linked. If one of them dies or is hurt, they all know. Instantly. No investigation required. But if you kill someone who isn't part of the hivemind, the guards have to rely on normal medieval forensics, which... don't exist.
that demon thing the cult in the BG1 expansion pack summons with the dagger from Durlag's Tower. Who usually manages to irreparably curse at least one of your characters during battle. That guy.
Anomen, as soon as I meet him. Didn't do it on my second last playthrough and actually had him join for the the very first time ever and as soon I clicked on him and he spoke I instantly regretted it.
Rieltar Anchev, Brunos Costak, Tuth and Kestor. These guys in the Candlekeep. They've inflicted so much damage to Charname and the Sword Coast as a whole, so fighing these guys seems just.
Er, well ... Rieltar Anchev and Brunos Costak, yes. But Tuth and Kestor represent a different organisation, which (at least so far) has done you no harm.
Keddath Ormyr. No reputation loss. Mainly because of his voice clip: "Don't touch me! I'm super-important". Now how important are you priest of Lathander?
Agree to a couple of the above ones, but also Am-Si, Reti and Camitis, 'cause after seeing the movie Buried I strongly feel that people burying other people alive must die. Preferably painfully.
Edit: And yeah, Llynis of course since child killers also must die.
I always kill that guy who wants you to murder the Polar Bear across the bridge from him... I forget his name. I like animals, particularly bears and his attitude stinks. If you kill him you get the rep loss but you still get the boots you'd get as the quest reward, just be sure to kill him before you speak with him or you get an unfinishable journal entry.
I always kill that guy who wants you to murder the Polar Bear across the bridge from him... I forget his name. I like animals, particularly bears and his attitude stinks. If you kill him you get the rep loss but you still get the boots you'd get as the quest reward, just be sure to kill him before you speak with him or you get an unfinishable journal entry.
And this, my friends, is how the shadow druids find recruits.
@God, I hate Portalbendarwinden. Irritating and obnoxious and pointless. The responses to his dialogue aren't even satisfying. It's like if Noober or Neeber required you to pick a dialog option every time, and none of the options were "shut up."
Mellicamp. I love me some fried chicken. Mm MM, tasty.
Unshey. I don't want your useless book in exchange for a useful belt, you useless twit! How's that stone wall security working out for you now, huh?! A stout hammer will fix most any Unshey.
Saemon. His name sounds like Salmon. I hate salmon, therefore I hate Saemon. Hope he gets...salmonella in hell, if that's even possible. It should be, for Saemon's sake.
Wellyn's ghost, if only to see if he ever drops the ghost of a teddy bear. I still think it should have been in the last patch.
Biff the Understudy. Why? I forget, I'm just the understudy.
Gorion. How else could I explain all of the times I restarted the game?
Karp. For reason, see Saemon. They are both named after fish.
Any gnome who says "You wouldn't hurt a gnome, would you?" Yes. Yes, I would.
Caldo. His voice actor's horrid attempt to mimic my native accent is reason enough to plug up his throat with a giant rat and watch the rat dig its way out through his neck. I don't even need a semi-nude nymph begging me to save her tree. I'll do it just to see Caldo bleed out and die. He also reminds me of caldo soup.
Nothing brings you more mid-game satisfaction than when you've sucked that guy's brains out as an illithid.
I remember reading the forums at the time searching for a way to kill him, because I was desperate to get those boots from Renal Bloodscalp. On the original Baldur's Gate 2, the Boots of Speed gave you extra attacks, so any pairs of them you had to have. I thought it would be a piece of cake to get the from him because my party was already pretty powerful. I'd just go in, whip his butt along with the rest of his weakling cronies, and walk out. Boy, was I in for a rude awakening. Out this guy comes like the father of Chuck Norris and makes us look like we are fresh out of kindergarten. I read online that the Time Stop + Shapechange - Illithid combo was the only real way of killing him, so when I pulled it off first time I felt like an absolute boss.
@wraith5641: You can also kill Arkanis Gath with STR drain from an Archer's Called Shot. Or, with much more difficulty, DEX drain with the Chaos Blade or WIS drain with Kachiko's Wakizashi. And you can block the instant death effect on his sword if you buff your characters with Death Ward.
@semiticgod Death Ward worked? On BGT? I think I may have tried that, and he killed me anyway lol.
Yeah, stat drain in general seems to do the trick. The Timestop/Shapechange combo tends to be the one that is convenient for most people because they have a mage in their party.
Nothing brings you more mid-game satisfaction than when you've sucked that guy's brains out as an illithid.
I remember reading the forums at the time searching for a way to kill him, because I was desperate to get those boots from Renal Bloodscalp. On the original Baldur's Gate 2, the Boots of Speed gave you extra attacks, so any pairs of them you had to have. I thought it would be a piece of cake to get the from him because my party was already pretty powerful. I'd just go in, whip his butt along with the rest of his weakling cronies, and walk out. Boy, was I in for a rude awakening. Out this guy comes like the father of Chuck Norris and makes us look like we are fresh out of kindergarten. I read online that the Time Stop + Shapechange - Illithid combo was the only real way of killing him, so when I pulled it off first time I felt like an absolute boss.
What happens once you kill him, though? - doesn't it break the game?
@SharGuidesMyHand: Arkanis Gath appears to prevent the breaking of the game--if you turn the Shadow Thieves hostile before you have a chance to side with Bodhi, then he'll force you to reload. But you can kill him without breaking the game by turning Renal Bloodscalp hostile after Valen greets you, but before you meet with Bodhi (since meeting with Bodhi removes Renal Bloodscalp from the hideout, I believe).
You know I really don't go out of my way in killing people.
I kill Xzar and Monty every time I see them. Mostly for their loot. It's nothing really personal.
I kill Edwin because I hate red wizards in general. Especially that red wizard.
I also kill the fat dude in the very first area after Gorion's death just because he has nothing useful to say and I don't usually mean to initiate his dialogue.
I also kill Neera if she's not going to be my party for her gem bag. If I'm a good party I rp saying that I didn't arrive in time to save her. How sad.
Oh Even though I'm really really fond of Imoen I still kill her if she's not going to be in my party ever. It's like if I can't have her than nobody else can.
The drunk guy outside the temple near Beregost (the one who claims he's a lich and demands that you give him your money.) Well yeah, he's obviously not really a lich, but he did try to rob me.
*annoyed grunt at reputation loss for ridding the world of a drunken mugger with delusions of grandeur*
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There is alot of wanton murder going on around Baldur's Gate when you think about it.
* In the Helm and Cloak a band of adventurers tries to kill you. You leave the tavern, in the rich part of town, full of corpses. Nobody bats an eye.
* In the same rich part of town, you break into the house of Louise and Laerta. For that quest you blindly murder either a mage or druid...nobody checks in on the murder.
* Ragefast, as you mentioned, can be killed in his home without any investigating.
* You can murder Jardak in his locked home without the guards coming.
* Ramazith can be killed in his tower, or outside of it, without the guards caring.
* You can kill the entire temple of Umberlee without the authorities getting involved.
* As you mentioned, you can slaughter your way through the Iron Throne building, and the law enforcement turns around to hire you.
* Arkion and Nemphre can be killed in their homes as well.
I'm sure there is more. But you can get away with quite a lot of home invasions and murder in Baldur's Gate without the authorities ever tracking you down.
that demon thing the cult in the BG1 expansion pack summons with the dagger from Durlag's Tower. Who usually manages to irreparably curse at least one of your characters during battle. That guy.
So imagine my fury when he pops back up in Throne of Bhaal...
Didn't do it on my second last playthrough and actually had him join for the the very first time ever and as soon I clicked on him and he spoke I instantly regretted it.
He's so annoying, I just have to kill him. I know I shouldn't, but that doesn't make it any less fun
Except for him.
Edit: And yeah, Llynis of course since child killers also must die.
Preferably with a large blunt object roughly the size of @elminster AND his hat.
Unshey. I don't want your useless book in exchange for a useful belt, you useless twit! How's that stone wall security working out for you now, huh?! A stout hammer will fix most any Unshey.
Saemon. His name sounds like Salmon. I hate salmon, therefore I hate Saemon. Hope he gets...salmonella in hell, if that's even possible. It should be, for Saemon's sake.
Wellyn's ghost, if only to see if he ever drops the ghost of a teddy bear. I still think it should have been in the last patch.
Biff the Understudy. Why? I forget, I'm just the understudy.
Gorion. How else could I explain all of the times I restarted the game?
Karp. For reason, see Saemon. They are both named after fish.
Any gnome who says "You wouldn't hurt a gnome, would you?" Yes. Yes, I would.
Caldo. His voice actor's horrid attempt to mimic my native accent is reason enough to plug up his throat with a giant rat and watch the rat dig its way out through his neck. I don't even need a semi-nude nymph begging me to save her tree. I'll do it just to see Caldo bleed out and die. He also reminds me of caldo soup.
Nothing brings you more mid-game satisfaction than when you've sucked that guy's brains out as an illithid.
I remember reading the forums at the time searching for a way to kill him, because I was desperate to get those boots from Renal Bloodscalp. On the original Baldur's Gate 2, the Boots of Speed gave you extra attacks, so any pairs of them you had to have. I thought it would be a piece of cake to get the from him because my party was already pretty powerful. I'd just go in, whip his butt along with the rest of his weakling cronies, and walk out. Boy, was I in for a rude awakening. Out this guy comes like the father of Chuck Norris and makes us look like we are fresh out of kindergarten. I read online that the Time Stop + Shapechange - Illithid combo was the only real way of killing him, so when I pulled it off first time I felt like an absolute boss.
Yeah, stat drain in general seems to do the trick. The Timestop/Shapechange combo tends to be the one that is convenient for most people because they have a mage in their party.
I kill Xzar and Monty every time I see them. Mostly for their loot. It's nothing really personal.
I kill Edwin because I hate red wizards in general. Especially that red wizard.
I also kill the fat dude in the very first area after Gorion's death just because he has nothing useful to say and I don't usually mean to initiate his dialogue.
I also kill Neera if she's not going to be my party for her gem bag. If I'm a good party I rp saying that I didn't arrive in time to save her. How sad.
Oh Even though I'm really really fond of Imoen I still kill her if she's not going to be in my party ever. It's like if I can't have her than nobody else can.
And he and my Barbed club of pain are a match made in celesta.
Also Peter of the North when not giving his boots.
*annoyed grunt at reputation loss for ridding the world of a drunken mugger with delusions of grandeur*