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What do you think/ hope the new Beamdog game is going to be?

ButtercheeseButtercheese Member Posts: 3,766
So there have been hints that there is already a new game in the works by Beamdog:
https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/comment/693016/#Comment_693016

The question is just ... what game is it?

As stated in the above mentioned post, it's not going to be Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition.
What do you hope/ think it's goint to be? Discuss!

PS: Due to some wishes from the other folks here, the poll will be concentrated on which you actually believe is the most likely to be released. But please go on discussing either ;)
  1. What do you think/ hope the new Beamdog game is going to be?40 votes
    1. Planescape Torment: Enhanced Edition
      30.00%
    2. Icewind Dale 2: Enhanced Edition
      20.00%
    3. Fallout: Enhanced Edition
        7.50%
    4. Baldur's Gate 3
      17.50%
    5. An Enhanced Edition of something else (please comment)
      10.00%
    6. A completely new IP (please comment)
      15.00%
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  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    I think they've done the most profitable EE remakes they could do. Torment doesn't really need much improvement (it's a text-based game, after all), the BG saga is basically already complete, IWD2 wasn't as popular and therefore wouldn't sell as well as a remake, and I don't know about Fallout.

    I would predict they'd be more interested in a novel title. Though personally I'd prefer to see IWD2:EE come out.
  • brusbrus Member Posts: 944
    edited December 2015
    Before the team went to Wizards I thought it'll be completely new original IP.
    But reading how the meeting went and that Wizards have future projects in mind, my hunch is it'll be some new RPG from Forgotten realms lore.
    How will everything unravel, we'll see.
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  • GallowglassGallowglass Member Posts: 3,356
    "Think" and "hope" are not the same thing!

    What I'd hope for is BG3, but I think IWD2ee is a little more likely. Having already done IWDee, I reckon Beamdog might be feeling that their task is unfinished until they also do IWD2ee.
  • brusbrus Member Posts: 944
    If IWD2EE will be side project along with some main title then it'll be OK. But, if it'll be the only project, it's not wise in my opinion.
  • KamigoroshiKamigoroshi Member Posts: 5,870
    Looking from a chronicle order of things, an IWD2:EE would make the most sense. And while a good bit of code would need to change for granding that game the "enhanced" features of IWD:EE, it would take far less time and resources than, say, to create an IWD3 from scratch.

    After that... I'm personally hoping for PS:T EE. Although, I wouldn't mind to be suprised by an Arcanum: Enhanced Edition. Or even Lionheart: Legacy of the Crusader Enhanced Edition for that matter. Heck, even an TESII:Daggerfall Enhanced Edition would pique my interest.
  • ButtercheeseButtercheese Member Posts: 3,766

    "Think" and "hope" are not the same thing!

    That's what the comment section is for, or would you rather have me make to different polls ;)

  • GallowglassGallowglass Member Posts: 3,356

    That's what the comment section is for, or would you rather have me make to different polls ;)

    Well, it left me undecided as to whether I should vote for what I hoped or for what I thought more probable. And I still don't know whether you wanted a poll of hopes or a poll of what we think likely!
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  • BillyYankBillyYank Member Posts: 2,768
    I'd really like to see a new Forgotten Realms game in 5th Ed that's not directly connected to BG or IWD. Set it in the current timeline, and maybe have a few cameos from the longer lived characters in BG, but make it a whole new story.
  • ButtercheeseButtercheese Member Posts: 3,766
    Eh, I don't know, I think having two polls where ultimately the same things are going to be discussed would be a bit redundant :/ Just pick whichever you think is more important to you and leave a comment, it's not like the poll itself is gonna add up to anything, it's just sort of a silly game.
  • GallowglassGallowglass Member Posts: 3,356
    Shandyr said:

    I think for the company it would be wise to NOT establish an image of being enhancers of old games only. I think they should prove that they're also capable of creating a whole new game.

    Probably so in the long run, but I don't think they need to hurry to do that.

    As a small business, you can't do everything at once. It's often a pretty good strategy for the first several years to establish a solid reputation for being good at a single narrow speciality, to make yourself stand out from all the other small companies in roughly the same field.

    Expanding into wider activities is something the company will naturally want to do as they try to grow the business, but it's often wise to move fairly slowly and cautiously when going beyond what you've already proved you can do successfully.
  • brusbrus Member Posts: 944
    Shandyr said:


    Btw, that's the reason I will not vote on this one.

    We don't need separate poll. Buttercheese, do you agree with this consensus: let the people vote what they think and speculate and write in the comment what they hope for? Or other way around ?

    Btw, Shandyr, you should vote. What if the devs are reading this thread and say: hey, let's make a game which will be the outcome of this poll. :smile:
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  • FlashburnFlashburn Member Posts: 1,847
    The rights to the Fallout franchise are securely held by Bethesda, which they bought from Interplay to make Fallout 3, New Vegas, and 4. I'd say an EE of Fallout 1 and/or 2 is even more unlikely than NWN:EE. As for the next game beyond SoD, IWD2 is a pretty obvious choice because PS:T is perfect the way it is, though the widescreen mod is necessary.

    I know NWN:EE will come someday...
  • ButtercheeseButtercheese Member Posts: 3,766
    edited December 2015
    How about we make a poll on which of the two we should pick :D




    ... no?

    Fine, I'll go with "think", since the hopes have been discussed in other threads plenty. I still want you to talk about both tho! And now let's drop the meta-discussion and actually get to the real one xD

    I honestly can't decide if they are making IWD2:EE or PST:EE, but I'd prefer the latter.
    I think they are only gonna hit up BG3 or a new IP once they finished the "series".
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  • ButtercheeseButtercheese Member Posts: 3,766
    I could go with an overall better performance, especially less crashes and shorter loading times ...
    I also miss being able to zoom and the quick-looting.
  • GallowglassGallowglass Member Posts: 3,356
    Shandyr said:

    Actually I think the very same. But I would have thought that the time for expanding had come already, has it not?

    Obviously that's a judgment call for the company's management, and the timing will be a critical win-or-bust decision.

    However, enthusiastic managers (and enthusiastic customers!) often run well ahead of the readiness of the wider marketplace, and therefore end up making their move into a new field too soon. Plenty of small companies have gone bust by making that mistake.

    My judgment is that it's still a little early for Beamdog to make this move which would set them in head-to-head competition with loads of other game developers. They had two dodgy buggy releases (BG1ee and BG2ee) before they got it right with the more well-tested release of IWDee, so they haven't yet finished establishing a solid reputation as the go-to guys when you're looking for a high-quality re-make. I reckon they need a smooth and successful release of SoD, and then a further couple of EEs of other games (and also with a smooth well-tested release), to be solidly established as "the experts" in the niche of re-working existing material.

    Then yes, I reckon they'd be able to enter the original-games market already carrying a strong reputation from their previous work, which is a key edge in a tough market.
  • ArdulArdul Member Posts: 211
    Arcanum: Enhanced Edition.


    Otherwise I'd like to see icewind Dale 2: EE
  • Lord_TansheronLord_Tansheron Member Posts: 4,212
    They'd be silly not to make PST:EE.
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    it will be an expansion for BG2. however, they will throw a curve ball and have it take place prior to Charname escaping from Chateaux Irenicus, and revolve around a new PC and the events that happened prior to the escape.
  • SirBatinceSirBatince Member Posts: 882
    really hoping for IWD2EE. Just feels "right" you know? There aren't that many infinity games, might aswell complete the set.
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,773
    Pesrsonally, I think they emphasized the world "original content" in 2 of their 3 job positions.

    It leads me to undestanding a new game won't be an EE.

    In their 3rd job position they used an "upcoming Dungeons & Dragons Forgotten Realms computer role playing games" phrase.

    It further emphasizes a new game won't be PSTEE, because PST is not in the Forgotten Realms, it is from another AD&D fantasy campaign setting, the multiverse of Planescape.

    This is why I'm thinking about something like "IWD3". A game, where their experience of creating good battles (the Black Pits, the EE content, the upcoming SoD with "strategic, not only tactical" battles) with several characters will come to life.

    As for an expansion to BG2, they said it could be done if SoD was a success. Sod hasn't been released yet, so they can't start an expansion to BG2 now.

    As for an EE, I really think they want to try something new, all their strategy of the company shows their intent of reaching a new level. Maybe PSTEE will be available as an option in the future (and after TToN is released, welcomed and recieved a year status).
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    Well I *hope* it's going to be NWNEE but I *think* it's going to be a new game.
  • dunbardunbar Member Posts: 1,603
    I hoping for a completely new D&D game set elsewhere in the Forgotten Realms.

    As for what I think they'll do, that's almost impossible to answer without access to market research data, sales figures and budget constraints. Whatever they do it must be about growing the Beamdog brand, and that could well be the deciding factor as to whether they want to be known as THE company for enhancing existing games or a company that produces exciting new material in a proven format.
  • YamchaYamcha Member Posts: 490
    As long as they're making a profit with the Infinty Engine games, they'll remake them.

    Baldurs Gate 3 isn't really needed. The story more or less is concluded with ToB, not much to do here + licensing issues?
  • DragonKingDragonKing Member Posts: 1,979
    We need a remake for the original elderscrolls!
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