Best Original Kit or Class by Beam Doggitty Dog

booinyoureyes

Which original Beamdog kit do you guys like?

Tresset

I think several of these were just ported from IWD, but still an awesome idea for a poll!

Pteran

I was torn between Dark Moon Monk, Dwarven Defender, and Dragon Disciple.

Haven't upgraded to 2.0 yet and I likely won't until the kinks are better worked out, so no Shaman for me. I don't really have any interest in trying the Shadow Dancer. Rasaad is cool, but I'd still rather be a DMM.

As @Tresset said, Priest of Tyr and Priest of Tempus were imported from IWD, and they're both pretty great kits.

CutlassJack

There's a kit other than Swashbuckler?

CamDawg

Pteran said:

As @Tresset said, Priest of Tyr and Priest of Tempus were imported from IWD, and they're both pretty great kits.

Imported from IWDEE, yes, but still Beamdog originals.

booinyoureyes

Tresset said:

I think several of these were just ported from IWD, but still an awesome idea for a poll!

@Tresset Icewind Dale never had kits. IWDEE kits were added by beamdog.

mashedtaters

The blackguard has the most flavor. I don't play evil characters very often, but blackguard is totally the way to go.

Silverstar

Pretty sure most of those aren't Beamdog "originals", but I'm guessing you're asking "kits that wasn't in the originals"?

Well as much as I love (Red) Dragon Disciple... I'm still saying Blackguard. None of the other D&D CRPGs had done Blackguard well so far imo. Don't know if true to source material or not, but the Neverwinter Nights (2) implementation is... eww. EE Blackguard is just what I envision though, inverted paladin.

Southpaw

Torn between Dark Moon Monk and Blackguard. Basically both, but BG is just overpowered

TheArtisan

People do not use this class right. I use it as a frontline tank because of the bonus to AC and hitpoints, throwing fireballs and incendiary clouds on top of myself since I'm immune anyways. Also I learn every fire spell I can because roleplay (and found out Burning Hands actually does a lot of damage)

booinyoureyes

Why I chose Dark Moon Monk

Pretty simple. I though that monks could benefit the most from a kit in general. Also, I like the Shar v. Selune dynamic between them and the Sun Soul Monks.

It also plays well conceptually with the monks abilities to "hide in shadows". I basically consider them badass ninjas with frozen palms. The fact that they can detect illusions plays into that as well.

Also, I think they go really well with the portrait that @Pteran is using. One of my favorite Black Pits character was a Dark Moon Monk with that portrait. If only they could use quarterstaves!

deltago

I like my thief kits but it was a very hard choice.

Silverstar

Artemius_I said:

throwing fireballs and incendiary clouds on top of myself since I'm immune anyways.

Is there any other way to play the class?

Arunsun

I was torn between Blackguard, DMM and Shadowdancer.
But I chose Shadowdancer because the way this kit is played is very unique and different from the average thief, while DMM and BG are still quite close to their class (gameplay-wise ofc)

Kamigoroshi

I liked the Dark Moon Monk the most. Especially since this was the only kit which was not based on already existing prestige classes from D&D. That alone makes it already special in my book.

The Shaman class would be a close second, if they only would have invested more time in its fine tuning. Small things, such as:

• Drumming/chanting sounds when the Shaman Dance is selected (like the Bard Song and Turn Undead)
  
• Custom dance animations for the Shaman (because them just standing there is boring as hell)
  
• Giving them their own dogma instead of paste/copying the Druid's (they deserved to have their own quirks)
  

... would have made the Shaman much better in my eyes. And possibly my favourite class.

Grum

Dwarven Defender.

Name one other kit where it gives you a beard so large and so thick that it blocks half of all physical damage. Name one, I dare you!

illathid

Grum said:

Dwarven Defender.

Name one other kit where it gives you a beard so large and so thick that it blocks half of all physical damage. Name one, I dare you!

Agreed. Just solo'd the Black Pits with a dwarven defender and it was a lot of fun!

TheArtisan

Grum said:

Dwarven Defender.

Name one other kit where it gives you a beard so large and so thick that it blocks half of all physical damage. Name one, I dare you!

I will burn your beard to the ground with my flaming breath.

GenderNihilismGirdle

I'm just going by appearances with my vote, haven't played too much of any of them except the Monk kits (liked them both!) and Dragon Disciple but I haven't cleared a playthrough with any of 'em yet (I wanted to do a BG to SoA complete runthrough as a Shaman but I found out they don't get a Stronghold so I'm holding off for now, they seem cool tho!)

Grum

Artemius_I said:

Grum said:

Dwarven Defender.

Name one other kit where it gives you a beard so large and so thick that it blocks half of all physical damage. Name one, I dare you!

I will burn your beard to the ground with my flaming breath.

And that is how you get a berserker.

JuliusBorisov

I like all new classes/kits.

My love for dwarfs approves Dwarven Defenders.

But Blackguards are ultimate machines of destruction.

Ammar

I tend to like the cleric kits, the shaman, the monk kits and the blackguard.

The dwarven defender, the shadowdancer and the dragon disciple are too 3e for me. Yes, I feel the same about the sorcerer

I have nothing against the third edition, I just feel that second and third don't mix too well.

justfeelinathome

Shaman to me isn't a kit, but a class of it's own (and I think that's how it's coded). Much like a bard could be seen as a Mage/Thief blend with its own twists, shaman seems to be a Sorcerer/Totemic Druid blend... with its own twists. Otherwise I'd probably vote for it.

Kit-Wise I love DD, though, having played one in NWN, back in the days when they were added and my first attempts at writing (fantasy) featuring what was basically a DD protagonist (looking back, those were the days (insert nostalgia meme here...)). Nothing much came of it though, except for an unfinished first draft and me using the title (which shall not be named) as a password for a long time. also, it's a great kit.

Aedan

Tempus, give us victory!

JumboWheat01

Artemius_I said:

Grum said:

Dwarven Defender.

Name one other kit where it gives you a beard so large and so thick that it blocks half of all physical damage. Name one, I dare you!

I will burn your beard to the ground with my flaming breath.

Good luck with that. With the d12 hit die, Dwarven Defender saving throw bonuses AND shorty saving throw bonuses, they Dwarven Defender may not have magical resistance, but it doesn't really need it, magic has problems sticking to it anyway.

EnialusMeliamne

Dwarven Defender. When you need a wall of imperviousness, send in a DD and watch things die trying to kill it.

semiticgoddess

I've had a lot of success with Shadowdancer->Clerics. I don't use them to backstab; the appeal for me is the ability to escape from bad situations at will.

BelgarathMTH

Priest of Tyr for me. I love extra spells that deal with the dreaded "conditions" in the game - confusion, fear, berserk, and sleep in this case.

CamDawg

CamDawg said:

Pteran said:

As @Tresset said, Priest of Tyr and Priest of Tempus were imported from IWD, and they're both pretty great kits.

Imported from IWDEE, yes, but still Beamdog originals.

And I guess I need to clarify a bit. Tyr was a kit I threw together on a whim for Dorn's ToB storyline so that the enemies would have a little more variety, but was not made available to players in BG2EE due to lack of testing time. We tested it as a player option in IWDEE and eventually brought it back to BGEE/BG2EE.

Gotural

Blackguard for me, but I think I will prefer Shadowdancers from now on.

Skarose

I like Cavaliers and Assassins, but the V2 update has crippled assassins. Blackguards are awesome, even with downgraded poison, it's a shame the Devs didn't just separate the Blackguard's poison from the Assassin's poison rather than curtail all poisons, because, yeah the Assassin is pretty awful. I started an Assassin run and just quit it in frustration, started a Blackguard instead, having a blast with him!