Don't want to offend minsc, but he would need to be gay, understand himself as a gay, and position himself for what he want, however he's just not inteligent enough for that, he would be completly lost in the 2° point.
Are you... Are you suggesting that gay animals, a well known and common phenomenon in nature, have somehow been subjected to an awakening spell?
Don't want to offend minsc, but he would need to be gay, understand himself as a gay, and position himself for what he want, however he's just not inteligent enough for that, he would be completly lost in the 2° point.
Are you... Are you suggesting that gay animals, a well known and common phenomenon in nature, have somehow been subjected to an awakening spell?
Oh please. There is a big difference between a human strictly identifying himself as homosexual, and an animal banging whatever it sees. That comparison seems almost disrespectful to me, amounting humans to mindless animals. kamuizin's point about needing to have intelligence to be a sexually-identified person is completely true ... Mentally incapacitated fellows like Minsc tend to be pretty much asexual, they just don't really think about these things.
Don't want to offend minsc, but he would need to be gay, understand himself as a gay, and position himself for what he want, however he's just not inteligent enough for that, he would be completly lost in the 2° point.
Are you... Are you suggesting that gay animals, a well known and common phenomenon in nature, have somehow been subjected to an awakening spell?
Oh please. There is a big difference between a human strictly identifying himself as homosexual, and an animal banging whatever it sees. That comparison seems almost disrespectful to me, amounting humans to mindless animals. kamuizin's point about needing to have intelligence to be a sexually-identified person is completely true ... Mentally incapacitated fellows like Minsc tend to be pretty much asexual, they just don't really think about these things.
Funny.... In order to be asexual you need to be either Mentally incapacitated or extremely intelligent ( Like Sheldon Cooper character from The Big Bang Theory)..
Don't want to offend minsc, but he would need to be gay, understand himself as a gay, and position himself for what he want, however he's just not inteligent enough for that, he would be completly lost in the 2° point.
Are you... Are you suggesting that gay animals, a well known and common phenomenon in nature, have somehow been subjected to an awakening spell?
Oh please. There is a big difference between a human strictly identifying himself as homosexual, and an animal banging whatever it sees. That comparison seems almost disrespectful to me, amounting humans to mindless animals. kamuizin's point about needing to have intelligence to be a sexually-identified person is completely true ... Mentally incapacitated fellows like Minsc tend to be pretty much asexual, they just don't really think about these things.
I would suggest a considered response, rather than knee-jerk reaction, might make you look less ignorant. Setting aside the numerous cases demonstrating exactly how much mental capacity animals have, there exist animals that will actively select a male of the species even when females are available. There are, without question, gay animals.
I can't say it's offensive, but it is fairly amusing that you try to differentiate human sexuality from animal sexuality when both are about as instinctive and fundamental to a person's psyche as you can get. The idea that "homosexual" is something you need to "identify" as is about the same as saying that homosexual is something you need to be intelligent enough to "choose".
Yes, a brain injury can cause asexuality, not because the recipient of the injury is left unintelligent, but because that part of the brain was damaged.
As an aside, I kind of got the impression that Sheldon was asexual due to his Asperger's, again unrelated to intelligence.
Well, he is fiercely devoted to Dynaheir, but that may just be attributable to dedication to his dejemma. He's hugely protective as her bodyguard, certainly. I can't remember now what his lines are about her death at the start of BG2.
I've always thought that Minsc had a childlike innocence about him that would make him neither understand nor think very much about sex. If a woman (or a man, for that matter) came on to him, at first the flirtation would fly completely over his head. He simply wouldn't understand veiled or subtle sexual motivations in the behaviors of others.
If the person kept at it until Minsc began to "get" it, I think he would more than likely react with blushing and laughing, and would make some kind of off-the-wall joke about Boo, or about his dejemma/witch needing all his attention, or about the Ice Dragon Berserker Lodge.
I think it would be morally wrong to take sexual advantage of Minsc, for the same reason that it would be morally wrong to take advantage of an impaired adult in real life.
That's if we're taking this question semi-seriously. It was clearly meant to be just a funny joke to pass the time until game release, an invitation to have a threadful of funny posts.
Please, gods, don't let people start arguing about this.
Maybe I shouldn't have even put in my serious two cents. I kind of wish I could think of something funny to say to end this post, but alas, I'm just not as witty and funny a person as I would wish to be. (insert Debbie Downer muted trombone effect: wrah, wrah, wraaaaaaaaaaah.)
As long we just share our opinion it's ok, the problem will start when people start to question the other opinion (what will surelly happen if any hater or radical post comes to this thread).
@Shandyr, lord knows I have a vivid imagination! I think you're right that it's a good thing to leave a lot of the details about npc's to the players' imaginations. I have lots of backstories and ideas about the BG characters in my head, and about characters from other games, and I would probably be surprised how differently they are imagined by other players.
That's what I love about good single-player games. There are 1001 different ways to play them or imagine them. There's something for everybody. Hamsters and rangers everywhere, rejoice!
" Despite speculation that Sheldon's personality traits may be consistent with Asperger syndrome, obsessive–compulsive personality disorder and asexuality;[5][7] co-creator Bill Prady has repeatedly stated that Sheldon's character was not conceived nor developed with regard to any of these conditions"
What a misleading article title. The creators effectively shrugged and said "well we didn't *base* him on that...", something the article itself mentions is probably to avoid having to be constrained by the condition rather than the lulz.
That said, it's not unlike saying that the characters in Rent weren't based on the consideration of having AIDS, Sheldon is almost a textbook case.
@belgarathmth: That's a very good way of saying it, well put.
The only flaw in BG EE is the lack of a friendly mod interface to make possible to people mod the game even without a good knowledge of programs. That would make roleplay astounting.
Funny.... In order to be asexual you need to be either Mentally incapacitated or extremely intelligent ( Like Sheldon Cooper character from The Big Bang Theory)..
Funny.... In order to be asexual you need to be either Mentally incapacitated or extremely intelligent ( Like Sheldon Cooper character from The Big Bang Theory)..
At which point I made reference to the fact that any asexuality on either part was presumably due to Sheldon's displayed autistic traits or Minsc's brain damage, rather than any inherent mental acuity, and it all went spiralling downhill from there.
When I first read this thread title, and then read the initial comments, my first reaction was to feel a little bit offended, as a gay person. Just a little. The kind where I know that the person did not intend harm, was trying to just be funny and bring some smiles and laughs to people, but still, I felt just a little dig down inside, a little, vague, irrational, emotional hurt that the only way some people are ever going to like me or people like me is if I am funny, and completely non-threatening.
I thought about responding to it seriously. Then I saw a couple of other people get chided for "not having a sense of humor" and "being oversensitive". There were some comments made along the lines of "get over yourself, it's just a joke."
So I decided to take it in the spirit in which I think it was intended - the spirit of fun; albeit to me, misguided fun.
Then, I saw several people respond seriously despite the chiding. Then I saw arguments about to start. I did my usual schtick of "aw, come on, let's be friends and not fight." I am by nature a peacemaker. I try everything I can think of to diffuse conflict and to get people to get along and be friends.
When I saw someone ( @Shandyr ) once again defending me and people like me despite myself, and doing it gently and with grace, I again felt deeply appreciative that there was at least one other person like me, and one with the courage to try to do something about it.
Those are my honest feelings about this thread. The thread is maybe a little insensitive to the feelings of people like me, though I don't really think it was intended that way.
I've always thought that Minsc had a childlike innocence about him that would make him neither understand nor think very much about sex. If a woman (or a man, for that matter) came on to him, at first the flirtation would fly completely over his head. He simply wouldn't understand veiled or subtle sexual motivations in the behaviors of others.
If the person kept at it until Minsc began to "get" it, I think he would more than likely react with blushing and laughing, and would make some kind of off-the-wall joke about Boo, or about his dejemma/witch needing all his attention, or about the Ice Dragon Berserker Lodge.
I think it would be morally wrong to take sexual advantage of Minsc, for the same reason that it would be morally wrong to take advantage of an impaired adult in real life.
That's if we're taking this question semi-seriously. It was clearly meant to be just a funny joke to pass the time until game release, an invitation to have a threadful of funny posts.
Please, gods, don't let people start arguing about this.
Maybe I shouldn't have even put in my serious two cents. I kind of wish I could think of something funny to say to end this post, but alas, I'm just not as witty and funny a person as I would wish to be. (insert Debbie Downer muted trombone effect: wrah, wrah, wraaaaaaaaaaah.)
Well said, @belgarathmth. I share the same view with you. I think Minsc's mentality pretty much resembles that of a child. I see him as a person who understands animals better than people and therefore also has a special bond with said animals, such as Boo for example. I don't think he occupies himself with thoughts about sex, rather friendship and so-called 'camaraderie', travelling around with his friends and butt-kicking evil threatening those he cares about, pretty much like a child would do. And yeah, taking sexual advantage of Minsc would be like taking advantage of an innocent kid. Think about that.
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I can't say it's offensive, but it is fairly amusing that you try to differentiate human sexuality from animal sexuality when both are about as instinctive and fundamental to a person's psyche as you can get. The idea that "homosexual" is something you need to "identify" as is about the same as saying that homosexual is something you need to be intelligent enough to "choose".
Yes, a brain injury can cause asexuality, not because the recipient of the injury is left unintelligent, but because that part of the brain was damaged.
As an aside, I kind of got the impression that Sheldon was asexual due to his Asperger's, again unrelated to intelligence.
If the person kept at it until Minsc began to "get" it, I think he would more than likely react with blushing and laughing, and would make some kind of off-the-wall joke about Boo, or about his dejemma/witch needing all his attention, or about the Ice Dragon Berserker Lodge.
I think it would be morally wrong to take sexual advantage of Minsc, for the same reason that it would be morally wrong to take advantage of an impaired adult in real life.
That's if we're taking this question semi-seriously. It was clearly meant to be just a funny joke to pass the time until game release, an invitation to have a threadful of funny posts.
Please, gods, don't let people start arguing about this.
Maybe I shouldn't have even put in my serious two cents. I kind of wish I could think of something funny to say to end this post, but alas, I'm just not as witty and funny a person as I would wish to be. (insert Debbie Downer muted trombone effect: wrah, wrah, wraaaaaaaaaaah.)
That's what I love about good single-player games. There are 1001 different ways to play them or imagine them. There's something for everybody. Hamsters and rangers everywhere, rejoice!
That said, it's not unlike saying that the characters in Rent weren't based on the consideration of having AIDS, Sheldon is almost a textbook case.
@belgarathmth: That's a very good way of saying it, well put.
Sheldon Cooper - extremely intelligent and antisocial
Minsc - Thick as a brick cuddlebear
It's like they are exactly opposite
I hope I never have to punctuate in this way again
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I thought about responding to it seriously. Then I saw a couple of other people get chided for "not having a sense of humor" and "being oversensitive". There were some comments made along the lines of "get over yourself, it's just a joke."
So I decided to take it in the spirit in which I think it was intended - the spirit of fun; albeit to me, misguided fun.
Then, I saw several people respond seriously despite the chiding. Then I saw arguments about to start. I did my usual schtick of "aw, come on, let's be friends and not fight." I am by nature a peacemaker. I try everything I can think of to diffuse conflict and to get people to get along and be friends.
When I saw someone ( @Shandyr ) once again defending me and people like me despite myself, and doing it gently and with grace, I again felt deeply appreciative that there was at least one other person like me, and one with the courage to try to do something about it.
Those are my honest feelings about this thread. The thread is maybe a little insensitive to the feelings of people like me, though I don't really think it was intended that way.