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The change of rules on the forum

JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 11,537
edited March 1 in Site Resources
Ladies and gentlemen!

As you have noticed, today we have changed the forum guidelines.

The new rules are available here.

The old rules can be found here.

The change has been made in an attempt to make our rules up-to-date and harmonic, less personal, to unify them with the Terms of service each user has to accept when registering on this site, and to eliminate inconsistencies.

We have changed the rating of this site from "PG-13" to "Teen". PG-13 was an MPAA rating, i.e. a rating used for movies. For games there're other rating systems, one of them is ESRB, which can be used for rating sites as well, as "S" means software.

According to ESRB, "Teen" means that content is generally suitable for ages 13 and up. May contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling and/or infrequent use of strong language.

This change will exclude the mix the previous rules contained where ratings from different systems were mentioned as if they were the same thing.

Also, this change will be especially important in the wake of our next games.

Another reason is that there were inconsistencies between what we knew as the Site rules and the Terms of Service each user had to accept when registering on this site. Now the Site rules and the Terms of Service are the same.

The report "reasons" on the Flag feature have been updated.

Still, many parts of the new rules repeat our previous rules, so you should easily understand them.

When creating new forum guidelines, we used the experience from site moderation during all these years.

If you have any question about new rules, don't hesitate to ask them here!
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  • KamigoroshiKamigoroshi Member Posts: 3,589
    I have to ask. Point 2 prohibits any advertisements of products and copyrighted material on these forums. Which would rule out crowdfunding threads for ongoing campaigns on both fig and kickstarter as well. Given such “shoutout threads“ are clearly advertisements for other developers. And thus are against the newly established rules. Have I understood this correctly?
    ShandyrwubbleCrevsDaakButtercheese
  • ShandyrShandyr Member Posts: 6,575

    I have to ask. Point 2 prohibits any advertisements of products and copyrighted material on these forums. Which would rule out crowdfunding threads for ongoing campaigns on both fig and kickstarter as well. Given such “shoutout threads“ are clearly advertisements for other developers. And thus are against the newly established rules. Have I understood this correctly?

    Oh I second this question. For example even the Pillars of Eternity 2 crowd funding thread would not be allowed?

    Or how about the fact that I advertised the Black Isle Bastards within that thread?
    wubbleCrevsDaak
  • ButtercheeseButtercheese Member Posts: 3,443
    So, uh, what exactly is the difference to before? On the paper PG-13 and ESRB Teen look the same to me :neutral:
  • ButtercheeseButtercheese Member Posts: 3,443
    Newborns get to touch boobs, usually :V
    Also early devoloping girls.
    ShandyrHalfCelestialsmeagolheart
  • KamigoroshiKamigoroshi Member Posts: 3,589
    And moobs. Can't forget about them moobs.
    Notabarbiegirl
  • ALIENALIEN Member Posts: 405
    edited March 3
    @JuliusBorisov
    Hi, it's the first time when I want to ask about some legal stuff. I want to clarify the real meaning and origin of this statement:

    NOTICE: Unless otherwise expressly stated, Beamdog are the owner or licensee of all intellectual property rights in this Site and the materials you post related to Beamdog's licensed intellectual property. By submitting (e.g., uploading) content to the official forums for Beamdog games, you automatically grant Beamdog the royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully sub licensable right and license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform and display such content (in whole or part) worldwide and/or to incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or technology now known or later developed.


    I don't want to sound like I'm attacking Beamdog/staff etc but lot of things are not clear to me and I always assume the worst possible outcome.

    1. What is the reason of such drastic usurp statement? Are you really that this community really need "We own all of you stuff so beware what you post here!" atmosphere?

    2. If somebody post a unpublished poem as a forum post, does it theoretically means that Beamdog can sell a short novel with this poem or use it as one of the new NPC dialog in the future Addon Pack? Or worse, sue author after he will sell such content by claiming "copyrights because he posted this at out board"?

    3. Consider all mods which are uploaded as an attachment - in the light of quoted statement, does Beamdog owns the right to every mod and other things which is added via attachment? Including custom portraits/code/text?

    4. Which exactly country law allows Beamdog to have a right to own this kind of user posted content by using arbitrary statement quoted above?

    I hope that you will explain my concerns so I will have clear view of the ownership stuff.
    ButtercheeseCrevsDaaksmeagolheart
  • ALIENALIEN Member Posts: 405
    edited March 3
    That was fast, thanks for quick reply. It looks much more clear now, especially with the remarks about "content related to Beamdog's products" and mods having "otherwise expressly stated" part. Thank again :smile:
    JuliusBorisovCrevsDaaklolien
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 4,015
    "Also, this change will be especially important in the wake of our next games"

    Which are?
    ButtercheeseAstroBryGuyTroodon80CrevsDaak
  • AstroBryGuyAstroBryGuy Member Posts: 2,606

    "Also, this change will be especially important in the wake of our next games"

    Which are?

    May contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling and/or infrequent use of strong language.

    @smeagolheart - Baldur's Gate Slots? :wink:
    smeagolheartTroodon80lolienCrevsDaak
  • ButtercheeseButtercheese Member Posts: 3,443
    edited March 6
    Okay, here it is, it's Baldur's Gate pachinko.
    Time to go full Konami with this company.
    I would give my liiiiife ~ Not for honor but for youuuuuuuu ~
    *Goes crying in a corner.*
    AstroBryGuyTroodon80lolienCrevsDaak
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 11,537
    edited March 7

    "Also, this change will be especially important in the wake of our next games"

    Which are?

    Monitor our blog, Twitter and Facebook for announcements. :) ;)
    smeagolheart
  • AstroBryGuyAstroBryGuy Member Posts: 2,606

    "Also, this change will be especially important in the wake of our next games"

    Which are?

    Monitor our blog, Twitter and Facebook for announcements. :) ;)
    Aw, come'on! We won't tell anyone! Promise! :sunglasses:
    ButtercheeseCrevsDaaksmeagolheart
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 11,537
    @bob_veng Thanks for your feedback. We'll look at it.
    CrevsDaaklolienbob_vengNonnahswriter
  • ShandyrShandyr Member Posts: 6,575
    Are words like "sex" now banned from this forum?
  • ButtercheeseButtercheese Member Posts: 3,443

    So, the words like "sex" are still allowed.

    Teehee, you said "words"!
    CrevsDaakTroodon80AstroBryGuysemiticgod
  • GreenWarlockGreenWarlock Member Posts: 1,049
    And don't get me started on Grimsby...
  • subtledoctorsubtledoctor Member Posts: 6,587

    Also, this change will be especially important in the wake of our next games.

    Aiming for a younger audience?
    HalfCelestial
  • DreadKhanDreadKhan Member Posts: 2,975

    And moobs. Can't forget about them moobs.

    ...so, my obese middleschool years were rated R?
    CrevsDaak
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