Baldur's Gate Logic

ZaramMaldovar

I just thought this would be a fun topic.

Posting stuff about Baldur's Gate in the same vein as "video game logic"

Here's an example.

Is a Thief with 18 Dex and a lock pick skill of 40: still can't open the chest on the 2nd floor of the Candlekeep Inn
Is a Fighter with 24 strength and a +3 Two Handed Sword: Still can't break locks that the Thief with 16 Dex can pick easily.

Kamigoroshi

Ward collects three pieces of metallic undergarment: dwarf forges them into an giant exoskeleton golem with cockpit.

tbone1

Pick lock and walk into house? No problem.
Pick up a book on the bookshelf? Send in the the Marines!

ZaramMaldovar

Special Plot Item= Can't be put in Bag of Holding because reasons
Ring takes up same amount of space as Full Plate Armor or a Dragon's Severed Head.

DJKajuru

You can carry 20 plate suits in your inventory but can't carry 21 short swords.

ZaramMaldovar

@DJKajuru
There are only 16 item slots, but regardless that is true.

Bhaalspawn Logic- Only you and Sarevok disintegrate when you die.

DJKajuru

Bodies decompose to nothing in 24 hours.

ZaramMaldovar

Paladins will remain with party that does atrocious acts as long as they donate to a church every once in a while.
The purest of evil characters will likewise travel with a party that embraces the magic of friendship so long as they turn into the slayer every now and then.

ZaramMaldovar

Paladin with Reputation 20 who despite being a Bhaalspawn has never show any other signs of agression or despicable behavior is put in a situation where it appears he killed a nobleman's daughter and nobody finds that the least bit suspicious.

Blackguard with reputation 1 walks into a temple to donate money and isn't instantly attacked for his atrocities.

Viconia and Baeloth are both drow and get fairly few negative reactions from people outside of plot specific points.

Jaheria doesn't immediatly leave the party when you kill one of her oldest friends and allys (Seniyad)-Note: This logic fail is more or less fixed with the NPC Project Mod

DJKajuru

Dragons live underground and never fly away if near death.

Kamigoroshi

Warrior CHARNAME hasn't rested since Candlekeep till the end of Throne of Bhaal: still only got slight sympthoms of sleep deprivation after two years of continuing questing.

batoor

Reputation loss way out in the wilderness despite eliminating any witnesses.

Uhm Kangaxx tomb being easily accessible in a random house, despite him having been sealed ages ago(I think anyway) I mean who refurbished that house and didn't notice it had a giant sarcophagus in the basement?

Quickblade

Kamigoroshi said:

Warrior CHARNAME hasn't rested since Candlekeep till the end of Throne of Bhaal: still only got slight sympthoms of sleep deprivation after two years of continuing questing.

How do you deal with fatigue which starts making crazy things happen when you let it really start to pile on? Like L20 fighter being unable to hit a kobold, let alone something dangerous.

ZaramMaldovar

@Quickblade
I think it's more of a hypothetical than something serious.

ThacoBell

batoor said:

Reputation loss way out in the wilderness despite eliminating any witnesses.

Uhm Kangaxx tomb being easily accessible in a random house, despite him having been sealed ages ago(I think anyway) I mean who refurbished that house and didn't notice it had a giant sarcophagus in the basement?

Mr.Magoo?

islandking

Remove Party Member(s): 1
Are you sure you want to remove this character from your party? - Cancel

Jaheira: You've a task?
Jaheira: For the group.
Jaheira: Attacks Khalid
Jaheira: Attack Roll 20 : Critical Hit
Khalid: Takes 20 crashing damage from Jaheira
Khalid: Death
Jaheira: Blast it, Khalid! You die, and I—I swear you'll never hear the end of it!

Montresor_SP

You need to travel back to Baldur's Gate to stop Sarevok from becoming a Grand Duke and starting a war. The coronation is scheduled to take place ... let me check my watch ... at exactly the moment you enter the Ducal Palace! Whether that be five hours or five months after you leave the caves under Candlekeep!

Skatan

Choose between peasant, merchant and nobleman rooms; all rooms look the same.

Kamigoroshi

Quickblade said:

Kamigoroshi said:

Warrior CHARNAME hasn't rested since Candlekeep till the end of Throne of Bhaal: still only got slight sympthoms of sleep deprivation after two years of continuing questing.

How do you deal with fatigue which starts making crazy things happen when you let it really start to pile on? Like L20 fighter being unable to hit a kobold, let alone something dangerous.

Realistically it wouldn't stop with just suffering penatlies to hitting things or getting hit by said things. It should be more like: fatigue->penalty to mind affecting spells->greater malison->enfeebled and/or energy drain->rigid thinking->dying->death.

The game however allows you to basically play a character who never sleeps and still survive to the bitter end when you're crafty with items. It's actually a really fun roleplaying situation which is only rarely used by gaming folks: A legit and easy to relate journey towards paranoia and ultimatively madness. Everyone gets moody without enough sleep, multiply this a hundredfold with the stress of daily survival in deadly dungeons and you basically get a Xzar character even as an Lawful Good Paladin.

lroumen

So do you play sanely again when you get a forced sleep?

Kamigoroshi

Yes, if only temporarely. Keeps things interesting when suffering a relapse.

Zaghoul

Cast fireballs in houses, thick woods, doors, curtains, web spawns, the bartender standing around kegs of liquer, etc, and nothing burns but the flesh, and if survived, baby soft skin remains.

Flame retardant must be rampant in the realms.

islandking

Zaghoul said:

Cast fireballs in houses, thick woods, doors, curtains, web spawns, the bartender standing around kegs of liquer, etc, and nothing burns but the flesh, and if survived, baby soft skin remains.

Flame retardant must be rampant in the realms.

And the people who sit remain "sitting", turned hostile, yielding for help, while retain the drinking animation, sometimes they even moved, with the chair, while sitting, hey, how do they manage that

Zaghoul

@islandking Talk about bein drunk, that's drunk.

batoor

Amnish Legionaries seem to crack down more on people sleeping outside, as opposed to the widespread crime and well everything ''else'' that happens on the street^^

lroumen

You can scribe scrolls of higher level but not memorise to cast them. But you can cast them from the scrolls. Always seemed like an omitted restriction. It would have been awesome if the scroll had gibberish on it until the mage would have the sufficient level to understand and memorise it.

ZaramMaldovar

Party consists of:
Dorn
Neera
Korgan
Viconia
Minsc

Nobody tries to kill each other.

SomeSort

#52: You have an unbelievable instinct when it comes to whether the carcass of slain enemies will prove valuable or not. If you ever feel the urge to pick up and carry a dismembered body part, it will *ALWAYS* prove to be worth something somewhere down the road. If you do not feel the urge to pick up and carry a dismembered body part, it will always turn out that nobody would have wanted it, anyway.
#52b: you never accidentally take the wrong body part. You never grab the Kuo-Tao Prince's brain or the Eye Tyrant's blood. Because that would obviously be silly.

#53: When something is too heavy for you to carry, it's best to let your pet ferret to lug it around, instead.
#53b: you cannot give anything to your pet ferret, you can only turn your back on him and wait for him to take it.

#54: Nothing is ever truly pressing unless it involves a poison, a curse, or a family member of one of your party-mates. Everything else can wait indefinitely without consequence.
#54b: If your party-mate is evil, replace "family member" with "treasure" because evil people only care about money and/or power.

#55: If you're good and they ping as evil, feel free to kill them.
#55b: But for best results, do their quest first.
#55c: Quest rewards are kept in an alternate dimension until completion of the quest and will never be found on the quest-giver's body.

Montresor_SP

The Cowled Wizards will detect and intervene if you cast spells anywhere in Athkatla ... except in dark alleys where enemies waylay you, the sewers, or inside any building. Heck, I have cast spells inside the Council of Six building, right in front of Tolgerias, without any repercussions.

This prohibition is upheld strictly against two groups of people: 1) The player's party and 2) Jon Irenicus.

ZaramMaldovar

@Montresor_SP
Yeah I guess everyone else paid the 5000 gp for the magic license.

It helps to have Unfinished Business, because then you get a magic license (for free) for finishing the Kidnapping Boo Quest.

ZaramMaldovar

If CHARNAME is dire charmed by vampires, Drizzt and other allys fail to realize it is a spell and decide to abandon him.

If allys or innocents take ANY damage from a spell hurled by your party, they will fail to realize the true target and instead opt to turn on you.