@dunbar also interesting, do you wish to clarify ?
Whilst there are specific areas where computerisation has been very beneficial (medicine for example) I feel that we, as people, have lost a lot (in so many ways) with the computerisation of our workplaces and society in general.
Rather than go on in detail (I've just deleted what was turning into a huge and unwieldy essay) I'll try to sum it up by saying: 'Loss of human interaction and skills'.
Says the guy posting on an online forum, using the internet to communicate with people that can be on the other side of the world.
Like every tool, computers have their uses. If I spent all day, every day on online forums my life would the lesser for it (in my opinion). That really is part of my belief - the fact that you can work from home, shop from home etc. without any face-to-face interaction with real people is in the long run a bad thing.
Well I completely agree that spending your whole life online is a bad thing, of course. I cannot agree with the rest. Computers have given us a great deal of freedom. I buy (some) things online, not because I don't want to leave the house but because there are things I literally can't find anywhere except online. I don't think having to go outside and interact face-to-face with stupid people would make my life any better. But don't disregard what computers have given us. Like you said, medicine for example, but so much more. technology has come a long way, and we wouldn't have gotten this far without computers. And there's still so much we can accomplish.
I mean, sure, computers can be bad. But so can fire. And the wheel. Should we still live in caverns eating raw food? I don't think so.
Computers have given us a great deal of freedom. .
i have learned some valuable things about life because of computers but i believe that, that freedom was a bait. Online privacy is a thing of the past, Google CEO Eric Schmidt said: "If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place"
Meet Google. The noun that became a verb. The world's favorite search engine, and the company whose motto is "Don't be evil..."
As noble a sentiment as that is--and it is certainly a destination at which we need to arrive quickly--once we get there we will simply find new ways of separating ourselves into equivalence classes in an effort to look down upon others who are not in our class. In this country, if race/ethnicity is removed from the equation we separate ourselves according to economic status, as evidenced by the people who judge others based on what sort of car they drive, whether they are wearing the latest name-brand fashions, or the job they have.
As noble a sentiment as that is--and it is certainly a destination at which we need to arrive quickly--once we get there we will simply find new ways of separating ourselves into equivalence classes in an effort to look down upon others who are not in our class. In this country, if race/ethnicity is removed from the equation we separate ourselves according to economic status, as evidenced by the people who judge others based on what sort of car they drive, whether they are wearing the latest name-brand fashions, or the job they have.
What if we got rid of the idea of separating ourselves into classes as a means of discrimination altogether then? That's still only one bad idea, and then it would get rid of both racism AND that.
As noble a sentiment as that is--and it is certainly a destination at which we need to arrive quickly--once we get there we will simply find new ways of separating ourselves into equivalence classes in an effort to look down upon others who are not in our class. In this country, if race/ethnicity is removed from the equation we separate ourselves according to economic status, as evidenced by the people who judge others based on what sort of car they drive, whether they are wearing the latest name-brand fashions, or the job they have.
What if we got rid of the idea of separating ourselves into classes as a means of discrimination altogether then? That's still only one bad idea, and then it would get rid of both racism AND that.
That's basically what I was saying above when I said bigotry or discrimination, not just one type of them.
I mean people are already discriminated against for a lot of reasons other than racism.
a moderator should kindly inform people here that removing people (humans, feminists, trump) from the planet is not on-topic, not acceptable and that they should stick to bad ideas
What if we got rid of the idea of separating ourselves into classes as a means of discrimination altogether then? That's still only one bad idea, and then it would get rid of both racism AND that.
That would be even better but would require rewiring our brains--human beings are, much like cats, hardwired not to like each other very much.
As noble a sentiment as that is--and it is certainly a destination at which we need to arrive quickly--once we get there we will simply find new ways of separating ourselves into equivalence classes in an effort to look down upon others who are not in our class. In this country, if race/ethnicity is removed from the equation we separate ourselves according to economic status, as evidenced by the people who judge others based on what sort of car they drive, whether they are wearing the latest name-brand fashions, or the job they have.
What if we got rid of the idea of separating ourselves into classes as a means of discrimination altogether then? That's still only one bad idea, and then it would get rid of both racism AND that.
That's basically what I was saying above when I said bigotry or discrimination, not just one type of them.
I mean people are already discriminated against for a lot of reasons other than racism.
..and exactly what I meant with my comment as well. If someone thinks they are better than someone else, no matter the reason, that is a platform for so many shitty things like racism, misogony or whatever. Remove that one idea and you cleanse the world from most of the crap.
As noble a sentiment as that is--and it is certainly a destination at which we need to arrive quickly--once we get there we will simply find new ways of separating ourselves into equivalence classes in an effort to look down upon others who are not in our class. In this country, if race/ethnicity is removed from the equation we separate ourselves according to economic status, as evidenced by the people who judge others based on what sort of car they drive, whether they are wearing the latest name-brand fashions, or the job they have.
What if we got rid of the idea of separating ourselves into classes as a means of discrimination altogether then? That's still only one bad idea, and then it would get rid of both racism AND that.
And at that point, we can start hating each other for valid reasons: personality, musical taste, and sports.
It can soften it. Like a hammer does to the skull of someone driving slow in the passing lane.
@Dev6 @tbone1 in order for the twin towers to collapse cause of the airplanes that caused the fire that "weakened" the metal the fire had to be in the base of the towers
there is a nice movie to watch Loose change 2nd edition if you cant find it i can upload it on mega file hosting for you
It can soften it. Like a hammer does to the skull of someone driving slow in the passing lane.
@Dev6 @tbone1 in order for the twin towers to collapse cause of the airplanes that caused the fire that "weakened" the metal the fire had to be in the base of the towers
there is a nice movie to watch Loose change 2nd edition if you cant find it i can upload it on mega file hosting for you
Is this an example of conspiracy theories or are you asserting this as true?
Conspiracy theories should have been completely canceled after the Sandy Hook conspiracy theories started circulating.
Conspiracies do happen occasionally. Folks just use them to explain way too many phenomena without concrete evidence. The appeal of a conspiracy theory is that it gives you an excuse for not having proof.
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I cannot agree with the rest.
Computers have given us a great deal of freedom. I buy (some) things online, not because I don't want to leave the house but because there are things I literally can't find anywhere except online.
I don't think having to go outside and interact face-to-face with stupid people would make my life any better.
But don't disregard what computers have given us. Like you said, medicine for example, but so much more. technology has come a long way, and we wouldn't have gotten this far without computers. And there's still so much we can accomplish.
I mean, sure, computers can be bad. But so can fire. And the wheel. Should we still live in caverns eating raw food? I don't think so.
i have learned some valuable things about life because of computers but i believe that, that freedom was a bait. Online privacy is a thing of the past, Google CEO Eric Schmidt said: "If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place"
Meet Google. The noun that became a verb. The world's favorite search engine, and the company whose motto is "Don't be evil..."
Published on Mar 3, 2010
they are gonna forbid the use of VPN services in the future and face recognition software wouldn't be possible without computers
I mean people are already discriminated against for a lot of reasons other than racism.
@tbone1
in order for the twin towers to collapse cause of the airplanes that caused the fire that "weakened" the metal
the fire had to be in the base of the towers
there is a nice movie to watch Loose change 2nd edition if you cant find it i can upload it on mega file hosting for you
Conspiracy theories should have been completely canceled after the Sandy Hook conspiracy theories started circulating.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_Change