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  • JoenSoJoenSo Member Posts: 910
    I actually really like those reconstructed images of Parthenon and greek statues in color. Or the ancient pyramids before people started using them as quarries. Imagine how cool they all must have looked when they were brand new!

    I quit after 10 minutes and only got 92, slightly below average. The weird thing is that I forgot countries that are familiar to me or which I've thought about or read about very recently:


    Jamaica, Ukraine, Belgium, Singapore, Bhutan, Uganda, Kenya, Venezuela, and the Marshall Islands

    I was typing constantly for the first 5 minutes before abruptly hitting a wall.
    I had the exact same experience the first time I did this a couple of years back. I've managed to get 100% on that quiz but it's still surprisingly easy to forget countries you think about regularly. Like the States of America game they do in Friends.
  • DrHappyAngryDrHappyAngry Member Posts: 1,577
    Grond0 said:

    I was just listening to an episode of "The Rest is History" (BBC series taking a comic look at historical topics). There was a nice snippet there, which I don't remember hearing before, along the lines of Annie Oakley being responsible for WWI.

    She was a famous sharpshooter and was touring Germany in 1889 when Kaiser Wilhelm II came to her show (part of the Buffalo Bill tour). One of her famous tricks was shooting the ash of a cigar held in someone's mouth. That was normally her husband, as volunteers were generally not too quick to come forward, but on this occasion the Kaiser stepped up to the mark. Unusually for Annie, she felt rather anxious about this and asked the Kaiser to hold the cigar in his hand rather than his mouth - but successfully shot the ash off anyway.

    After WWI broke out Annie said she regretted not taking the chance to adjust her aim a bit when taking that shot ...

    I'm sure there's lots of places you can find this story, but here's one.

    Hah, I've done a fallout: new vegas playthrough as Annie Oakley.
  • ThacoBellThacoBell Member Posts: 12,235
    The Amazon river basin kinda blew my mind. Changes the entire perception of it.

    I laughed so hard when I found about the painted Greek statues.
  • QuickbladeQuickblade Member Posts: 957

    JoenSo said:

    16th century artillery master Franz Helm wrote about how to use gunpowder and fire in warfare. He describes a method for setting fire to a city you can't approach. Now strapping burning things to the backs of cats sounds like a terribly bad idea to me, but at least it gave us this illustration of a cat with a jetpack. You go, rocket cat.

    This reminds me of a classic American project in WWII to create a better bomb to inflict such devastation on the Japanese that they would surrender - the bat bomb!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_bomb

    Ultimately they went with plan B that used something even smaller, but burned way hotter. Rumor has it, thought, that the bat bomb project was undone only when a visiting general demanded a demonstration, and was understandably upset when his base promptly burned down that night...
    Next link over (military animals), "Ramses II had a pet lion which fought with him during the Battle of Kadesh."
  • Grond0Grond0 Member Posts: 7,457
    This video summarizes 10 military plans involving animals. They include the bat bomb, but my personal favorite is the chicken powered nukes >:).
  • Contemplative_HamsterContemplative_Hamster Member Posts: 844
    dunbar said:

    Going back to the subject of slavery briefly. The history of Freetown in Sierra Leone is interesting as it was founded by a group comprised largely of black ex-slaves from the Americas and was at the time the only port on the African coast that didn't tolerate slavery or the transport of people for the purposes of slavery.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_Leone_Company

    Whereas next door in Liberia, the numerically small Americo-Liberian minority group - principally former US slaves and their descendants - completely dominated the country for a century and a half politically, culturally, and economically, and rarely intermarried with the indigenous people, who appear to have little say in their government.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americo-Liberians



  • Grond0Grond0 Member Posts: 7,457
    According to Wikipedia there are a few man-made explosions slightly larger than Halifax, but it's certainly right up there. The scale of the blast can be illustrated by the fact that they found the 1,140 lb anchor shaft of the ship "Mont Blanc" 2.5 miles from the site of the explosion.
  • DrHappyAngryDrHappyAngry Member Posts: 1,577
    The list on that page you linked to shows the Halifax Explosion as the largest before nuclear weapons. The Heligoland/British Bang was 1947 and The Minor Scale and Misty Picture tests were 1987. Those weren't nuclear blasts, but they did happen after the invention of nuclear weapons.
  • ThacoBellThacoBell Member Posts: 12,235
    I think the scariest thing about the development of the nuclear bomb wasn't that scientists were afraid of the possibility of a world endning chain reaction, it was that they did it anyway.
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    When you're dealing with cutting-edge research involving massive energies, you probably wonder if you're going to destroy the world all the time. In reality, the chain reaction was exclusive to a certain subset of elements, and even then, only a certain isotope at a certain purity.

    We keep doing it, and keep surviving, because our curiosity is bigger than our fear and our fear is bigger than the danger.
  • JoenSoJoenSo Member Posts: 910
    "I am mad scientist. It's so cooooooool!"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYvhhMjW32k
  • ZaghoulZaghoul Member, Moderator Posts: 3,938
    ThacoBell said:

    I think the scariest thing about the development of the nuclear bomb wasn't that scientists were afraid of the possibility of a world endning chain reaction, it was that they did it anyway.

    Yeah, I think the same can be said for various types of tech and genetic research these days, esp. now that the Human Genome Project has offered all sorts of possibilities for 'fiddling' around with DNA. There is usually a bad side that comes with the good it seems, unfortunately, and the exploitation that can go with it.
  • dunbardunbar Member Posts: 1,603
    Having worked for a while in R&D (albeit in beer brewing rather than anything world-changing) I know how almost euphorically exciting it can be to see the potential opportunities that are opened up to you when you begin to truly understand how something works on a fundamental level.

    However, just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    dunbar said:

    Having worked for a while in R&D (albeit in beer brewing rather than anything world-changing)

    Oh my God! You have the dream job!!!

    Tell me you're a taste-tester and I'm going to turn as green as @mlnevese. Well, he's actually blue now but you get my drift.

    P.S. Beer brewing isn't world changing? Say it isn't so!
  • BillyYankBillyYank Member Posts: 2,768


    Did you know that you have the ancient Romans to thank for both graffiti and pornography?

    The Egyptians were making pornographic graffiti long before the Romans existed. Google image search for "hatshepsut and senenmut graffiti" for one example. Also the Greeks produced pornographic pottery.
  • BillyYankBillyYank Member Posts: 2,768

    Sounds a lot like they were reading Xenophon's Anabasis when they came up with that system.

    I first read the Anabasis when I was a journalist in the US Army. You could argue that he's the first war correspondent we know of. He was a retired general from Athens and only went along on the expedition so he could write a book about it. When the Persians murdered the Greek officers, he was elected overall leader of the 10,000.
  • mlnevesemlnevese Member, Moderator Posts: 10,214
    Balrog99 said:

    dunbar said:

    Having worked for a while in R&D (albeit in beer brewing rather than anything world-changing)

    Oh my God! You have the dream job!!!

    Tell me you're a taste-tester and I'm going to turn as green as @mlnevese. Well, he's actually blue now but you get my drift.

    P.S. Beer brewing isn't world changing? Say it isn't so!
    I should flag that post for discrimination against color changing aliens... :wink:
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