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  • Grond0Grond0 Member Posts: 7,457
    semiticgod wrote: »
    Looks like a tub of Peter Pan Peanut Butter costs $5.69 at Target and yields 7600 calories. If you wanted to die young, you could live off of $1.50 a day!

    There seems to be something slightly ironical about the prospect of dying young from overdosing on Peter Pan :p.
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    semiticgod wrote: »
    Time is definitely a factor. I'm simply not patient enough to spend time cooking (I don't enjoy the process; I have other things I can do with that time), so a lot of my food choices involve what is simplest to prepare. I already have a fairly healthy diet, but even I could make it healthier if I took the time to cook.

    Healthy diets can be cheaper if you invest time in them, but even then, I think the absolute cheapest diet--the diet that simply fulfilled your calorie needs and kept you alive, if not healthy--would probably involve relying on sugar-heavy products or rice. A big bag of rice can feed you for days and only cost a few bucks (I don't know about the fuel cost in cooking it); a bulk bag of cereal can do the same. If we go strictly by calories, you can get LOTS of calories from peanut butter at a fairly low price. The calorie-to-cost ratio can be very high for certain foods.

    Looks like a tub of Peter Pan Peanut Butter costs $5.69 at Target and yields 7600 calories. If you wanted to die young, you could live off of $1.50 a day!

    I don't think that would "keep you alive" in the sense that you would live as long as on a normal diet. You'd die to scurvy or something. I think the absolute cheapest diet that would keep you alive would be loads of cheap vegetables like beetroot and carrots, they have lower calorie content but relatively high nutrition value.
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    edited February 2019
    You do need a certain minimum number of calories to survive. Carrots are 186 calories per pound, so you'd need to eat more than 10 pounds, or 5 kilograms, of carrots to get your daily value of calories. A kilogram of beetroot would get 370 calories, so you'd need about 5 kilograms of beetroot per day to survive as well. The sheer volume of food you'd need to eat seems like it would impose a heavy burden on your digestive tract.

    I would guess that the best low-cost, moderately nutrient-rich diet would probably involve a great deal of egg-fried rice. Eggs and rice are both incredibly cheap, and while even brown rice is mostly just carbs, the eggs would fill in a lot of nutrients, and a bit of milk could fill in the rest.

    Or just eat a bunch of peanut butter and then take a multivitamin and a fiber supplement. Although once you hit a certain point, a diet starts looking less like a source of nutrition and more of a dystopian life support system.
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    semiticgod wrote: »
    You do need a certain minimum number of calories to survive. Carrots are 186 calories per pound, so you'd need to eat more than 10 pounds, or 5 kilograms, of carrots to get your daily value of calories. A kilogram of beetroot would get 370 calories, so you'd need about 5 kilograms of beetroot per day to survive as well. The sheer volume of food you'd need to eat seems like it would impose a heavy burden on your digestive tract.

    I would guess that the best low-cost, moderately nutrient-rich diet would probably involve a great deal of egg-fried rice. Eggs and rice are both incredibly cheap, and while even brown rice is mostly just carbs, the eggs would fill in a lot of nutrients, and a bit of milk could fill in the rest.

    Or just eat a bunch of peanut butter and then take a multivitamin and a fiber supplement. Although once you hit a certain point, a diet starts looking less like a source of nutrition and more of a dystopian life support system.

    I would probably favour carrots, beetroot, eggs and a little carbs as required. Potatoes or sweet potatoes for example. Veggies for life!
  • LadyRhianLadyRhian Member Posts: 14,694
    Yeah, it's not just the cost of eating healthy. If someone is working 2 or 3 jobs to try and survive (as some people certainly do) they may not have the time to cook healthy. I know a lot of people who barely have the time and energy to throw a sandwich together to eat. To them, slopping some peanut butter on two slices of bread is all they have the time and energy to do and snacking on some cheap chocolate from the dollar store is all they have time for.

    Even when I cook, it's from canned stuff. Or I make "Tuna Noodle Casserole" with macaroni Noodles, canned Tuna and Early peas. I can also do chicken pot pie with canned Mixed Veggies, a can of cream of chicken soup, cooked chicken, some bisquick, milk and an egg. Or "Impossible Cheeseburger Pie"- Ground beef, Canned Mixed Vegetables, Canned cheese soup, milk, Bisquick, water and Shredded sharp cheddar cheese.

    And my mom used to make what she called 2/2/2- 2 cans Tomato Soup, 2 cups Cooked Macaroni and 2 lbs of cooked ground beef all mixed together and baked in the oven.
  • SkatanSkatan Member, Moderator Posts: 5,352
    I understand why ppl who work three jobs don't have energy to cook, but for everyone else, buying pre-cooked food or canned vegetables instead of just regular vegetables is just mind-boggling. If you have a pair of hands, a knife and something to slice on, why not just buy vegetables and cut them, cook them and eat them?

    I see many, many people of "working class", working regular 8 hour work days who eat McD all the time. Then I see educated ppl working 60 hour work week who still eat healthy food they cook themselves or buy from places that serve actually good food. It's.. interesting, from a cultural perspective that buying just potatoes and vegetables, which is cheaper, can be seen in statistics (from what I've read) as being less common in groups with less money, who would then have a lot to gain from it. You also see the same group having a higher percentage of ie smokers etc.

    I'm not really making an argument here about working class ppl being lazy, stupid or anything, it's just interesting. I also won't prove my "point" by digging up the statistics, since I am not really proving a point.

    What's your thinking here, can you see the same behaviour within your local communities?
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    edited February 2019
    Personally, I don't cook because I find it boring. I see the value in it, but it's not for me. Same thing with exercise, really.

    If I had any health problems, of course, that would be a different story. But basically the only times I ever get sick are when I lapse on my diet and eat too much sugar, which generally just means after the holidays, when there's cookies everywhere. I don't know how many years it's been since I was sick enough to throw up--and that was over in a couple minutes. When I was a kid and had a worse diet, I got sick rather often.

    I see my primary care doctor tomorrow, actually, since I've been having chronic eye pains. That's my one health issue, and it's nothing a couple Ibuprofen can't fix (in fact, it's mild enough that I can actually ignore it and keep operating just fine). It's probably just due to sinus pressure, but it's safer to check to make sure it's not something more serious.
  • LadyRhianLadyRhian Member Posts: 14,694
    So, Trump gave a rally in El Paso, which apparently was kinda ike chaos. A Trump supporter attacked a BBC Cameraman. https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/watch-trump-supporter-goes-berserk-attacks-bbc-cameraman-el-paso-rally/?fbclid=IwAR2eUTc7Uv1Obe_BP7YeLEEE7yQpM7dD921oAH6xP2HdY8lhUIg1f6vhSLc Trump was also supposed to meet to hear about the possible deal between Republicans and Democrats, but skipped it to "prepare" for his rally. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/2/12/1834116/-Trump-claims-he-skipped-briefing-on-border-deal-to-prep-new-even-wilder-lies-for-his-rally?detail=emaildkre
    Meanwhile, Trump was all over the place on numbers, claiming 33,000 Murders in Mexico at one point. The next time he mentioned it, it was 38,000 and a third time "almost 40,000".

    Also in El Paso, Beto O'Roarke held an "Anti-Wall" rally, which got a larger turnout, which must have galled Trump to no end.Trump lied and said he had a crowd of "35,000", but the facility at which Trump spoke only holds 11,000, and Beto's crowd is estimated at 10,000-15,000. That he lied is not unusual. (Daily Kos: Trump claimed he had a crowd of 35,000, and said O’Rourke had a couple hundred. But the El Paso Coliseum where Trump held his rally reportedly only holds 11,000. Bloomberg News reported that O'Rourke drew a crowd of 10,000 to 15,000.) Here are pictures from the Counter-Rally: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/2/11/1833991/--FatNixon-in-El-Paso-live-updates-including-counter-rally?detail=emaildkre

    And, of course, Sean Hannity is against any sort of deal, calling it "a garbage compromise". :P

    Trump also seems to be heading for another Shutdown, and is once again trying to blame Democrats, when in reality, of course, it's His refusing to have anything less than a wall which is to blame.

    Meanwhile, the government is stuffing teens into a Florida Detention Center like Sardines in a can (70 to 250 kids PER ROOM), giving them cold rooms, substandard food and schooling (all of which ticks me off as a human being, if not an American) and they are being held there for up to 6 months at a time. Originally, these teens were being housed 12 to one room, which is bad enough, but one of the larger buildings have been retrofitted to make these new, larger areas, in which you can barely walk by the chain-link walls sideways without brushing a wall on one side and a bunk bed on the other. It sounds like a holocaust-era camp! I find this completely disgusting.

    The Homestead complex, which was opened by the Obama administration in 2016 for a 10-month period, is on federal land beside Homestead Air Reserve Base in Miami-Dade County. The campus, made up of buildings and tents, is surrounded by chain-link fences with guards at every entrance. Children are not allowed to leave the facility, despite regulations in the Flores settlement specifying that children’s shelters must be non-secure, and they must wear wristbands that track their movements.

    The shelter is “very militaristic” and “highly regimented.” The children wake up at 6:30 a.m., spend most of the day in school, save for roughly an hour of outdoor time, and go to bed at around 10 p.m. They walk in single-file lines and eat at the cafeteria three times a day. They can only call their parents twice a week for 10 minutes. Teens. Who have done nothing but come here with their parents. ::Shaking my head.:: It's not that these kids are gang members or anything, but these kids are being essentially imprisoned by the Trump Administration for long periods of time to torture them and their parents.

    It's gotten so bad that more than 100 companies are calling for permanent protections for undocumented young people.Mainly for DACA kids, but others as well.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    Ouch. This Green New Deal might turn out to be a major boon for the Republicans. The timing couldn't be better for Trump after he took a black eye over the shutdown. It looks like McConnel is going to procede with a vote on it to get every Senator on-record as to approving or opposing it. Occasio-Cortez might have made her first rookie mistake...
  • LadyRhianLadyRhian Member Posts: 14,694
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  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    LadyRhian wrote: »
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    "Wait, there aren't enough rich people to pay for all this so I might have to pay higher taxes for it? That's not what was promised! Screw that!!!"

    Happened in France, would happen here too. Don't throw these pie in the sky wishful thinking promises out there. Let's have a real discussion about how much it's going to cost ME not some mythical 'evil rich dudes'...
  • jjstraka34jjstraka34 Member Posts: 9,850
    edited February 2019
    What do women's rights, LGBT rights, gun control and Wall Street regulation have to do with higher taxes?? Half of the things on that list have nothing to do with spending money at all.
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    I throw out the baby with the bathwater. Why should I vote for a party that is going to rob me just because they're supposedly 'better human beings'? What exactly have they really accomplished with all their platitudes? It's talk to get people to think they're great human beings while they lift your wallet. I used to think the Republicans were more fiscally conservative but I've lost any faith I had in them as well. That doesn't mean I think the Democratic Party is any better. Talk, talk, talk - get people riled up - talk some more - have a rally or a protest - talk again - blah, blah, blah... Net change = 0. Exactly what they want, your vote, no results. Sounds like both parties to me...
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    The Democratic Party hasn't controlled Congress since 2010, where its primary reform was the ACA. The GOP controlled both houses up until the 2018 midterms, resulting in gridlock until Trump took over, where the government's primary reforms were a tax cut and family separations at the border. Even now, the Democratic party only controls the House; the Senate remains under GOP control.

    The reason we have "Net change = 0" is because the Democratic party hasn't controlled the legislature in nearly 10 years. To this day, we have a GOP-controlled government, and this is what a GOP-controlled government does.

    If a given Democratic policy doesn't pass, I'm going to blame that on the people who voted against it.
  • BillyYankBillyYank Member Posts: 2,768
    jjstraka34 wrote: »
    What do women's rights, LGBT rights, gun control and Wall Street regulation have to do with higher taxes?? Half of the things on that list have nothing to do with spending money at all.

    And half of what's left mean spending less money. Justice reform = stop paying middlemen to cage people who shouldn't be in jail in the first place. Immigration justice means cutting the border guards, since there would presumably be an easy to get seasonal workers' visa. Medicare for all means not having to buy health insurance and goodbye to the $35 Tylenol capsule.
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,964
    edited February 2019
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    Ouch. This Green New Deal might turn out to be a major boon for the Republicans. The timing couldn't be better for Trump after he took a black eye over the shutdown. It looks like McConnel is going to procede with a vote on it to get every Senator on-record as to approving or opposing it. Occasio-Cortez might have made her first rookie mistake...

    Mitch McConnell last month:
    “The last thing we need to do right now is to trade pointless show votes across the aisle” McConnell

    So he's a hypocrite. Whatever.

    This is the same piece of trash who got burned doing this same thing before and ended up filibustering his own bill.

    https://theweek.com/articles/469675/mitch-mcconnells-amazing-filibuster-bill

    Dems have options: they can say screw him, approve it call his bluff. Or any Dems can vote no based on the bill not actually being complete. Republicans can screw themselves by denying climate change but a lot of their states have recently been devastated snowy hellstates they are setting themselves up to lines of attack in their own states just as much. But whatever regardless of this vote, something still has to be done to save the planet.

    Worldwide consensus of everyone in the world outside the Republican party is that climate change is a dire problem.

    Republicans have shown they certainly aren't capable of handling the crisis - look how badly they messed up healthcare.

    It's really sad that Republicans feel like they have to focus all their energy on find anything that could be used against AOC. They are that scared of her. ROFL.

  • LadyRhianLadyRhian Member Posts: 14,694
    edited February 2019
    Speaking of AOC, someone on Twitter has spread a lie about her having a 430 Credit Score, 2 Sherriff evictions and 2 checking accounts closed- with no evidence of the same. It's gotten so bad that Snopes had to create a page about it on their website because it is so widely being spread about her by trolls from the Internet. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-credit/

    Can we officially say this is completely BEYOND ridiculous now?
    BillyYank wrote: »
    jjstraka34 wrote: »
    What do women's rights, LGBT rights, gun control and Wall Street regulation have to do with higher taxes?? Half of the things on that list have nothing to do with spending money at all.

    And half of what's left mean spending less money. Justice reform = stop paying middlemen to cage people who shouldn't be in jail in the first place. Immigration justice means cutting the border guards, since there would presumably be an easy to get seasonal workers' visa. Medicare for all means not having to buy health insurance and goodbye to the $35 Tylenol capsule.

    I'd also say stop paying Private Prisons to incarcerate people. Stop signing agreements to keep these prisons 90+% full or pay millions of dollars in penalties to the Prisons. How do these prisons get away with this crap? Courts of states feel like they have to incarcerate people or cost their states $$$$. That's inherently exploitative and creates a "need" to put more people in prison to avoid paying money to these Corporations. If they go out of business, that might very well be a good thing.
  • BallpointManBallpointMan Member Posts: 1,659
    jjstraka34 wrote: »
    Struck by the news today in regards to Activision/Blizzard laying off nearly 8% of their workforce despite literally making RECORD profits in 2018. Their explanation being that despite this fact, they didn't hit their "goals". Which translates to "we made obscene amounts of money, but we didn't make ALL the money, so heads have to roll". You will notice the people responsible for not hitting whatever these metrics are are never the executives in charge who make 10s of millions of dollars, but rank and file employees. American capitalism is rapidly becoming a diseased philosophy beyond redemption.

    I saw this same thing, and had the same thought. Their CEO literally said they made more money than they ever have before, and it still wasnt enough to stop layoffs.

    Look - I dont mind efficient business models, but let's not create artificial requirements for solvency that have no basis in reality, and use them as excuses to hurt employees.
  • smeagolheartsmeagolheart Member Posts: 7,964
    edited February 2019
    jjstraka34 wrote: »
    Struck by the news today in regards to Activision/Blizzard laying off nearly 8% of their workforce despite literally making RECORD profits in 2018. Their explanation being that despite this fact, they didn't hit their "goals". Which translates to "we made obscene amounts of money, but we didn't make ALL the money, so heads have to roll". You will notice the people responsible for not hitting whatever these metrics are are never the executives in charge who make 10s of millions of dollars, but rank and file employees. American capitalism is rapidly becoming a diseased philosophy beyond redemption.

    Reminds me of this story from a well known Japanese game maker - Nintendo.

    Wii U Sales Down 36%, Nintendo Executives Taking Pay Cut Forbes Jan 2014

    Nintendo CEO Satoru Iwata said he'll be taking a 50% pay cut for the next five months, with other executives slicing their salaries by 20-30%.
    While the actual cost savings is a mere drop in the bucket, and the execs will likely be just fine because of their stock options, but it's more of a symbolic gesture, admitting their own wrongdoing.

    They rebounded pretty well with the Nintendo Switch and didn't stick it to the workers.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/01/29/wii-u-sales-down-36-nintendo-executives-taking-pay-cut/#650069c7cf31

    There's class warfare going on in the US. And the workers have been shafted for way too long. They've been on the bottom for so long they don't even know they are being taken advantage of.
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    edited February 2019
    Did Blizzard have a game that was cancelled?

    I always assumed gaming companies were like ad agencies and hired by project. If a project gets finished with no other project in the pipeline, or if a project gets cancelled, people will be shown the door. Having people sitting around waiting for work isn’t cost effective.

    Edit: I’ll also say, if you google Blizaard Lay-off and then look at the twitter announcements, it’s pretty much a crap load of other gaming companies headhunting. I think a majority of these workers will be fine.
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    What do you think they were hired for, to stick with the status quo?

    I now read articles pertaining to this:

    https://kotaku.com/activision-blizzard-begins-massive-layoffs-1832571288

    A) these layoffs were known to becoming
    B) game development was not affected. It is mostly publishing and Esports.
    C) they have lower expectations for 2019
    D) they are taking the funds from these layoffs and putting them back into game development
    E) buy out packages include continued health benefits, and job coaching.

    It is exactly part of what I said:

    “Currently staffing levels on some teams are out of proportion with our current release slate. This means we need to scale down some areas of our organization. I’m sorry to share that we will be parting ways with some of our colleagues in the U.S. today. In our regional offices, we anticipate similar evaluations, subject to local requirements.”

    It’s like Beamdog having 6 people doing Bengoshi’s job. They don’t need 6 Bengoshis. They terminate 4 of them with buyout packages and use that salary to hire 2 artists. Yes there are now less employees at the company, but the end product will be better, or created faster with the two new artists over the 4 community managers.

    Yes it sucks that you have to terminate employees. Why do you think it took as long as it did? They make 40 million BECAUSE they can make those hard choices. Sears would probably still be around if they made those hard choices 10-15 years ago and closed half their stores and fired half their work force. Yes losing half of your work force sucks, but losing them all sucks more.

    Obviously Blizaard/Activision isn’t there yet, but if Fallout 76 taught us anything, in the gaming industry, it can happen quick. Better get ahead than to let the company bloat and really have to slash staff once a failure hits.
  • jjstraka34jjstraka34 Member Posts: 9,850
    edited February 2019
    They were hired to make money for shareholders. As much as humanly possible. And if you think anyone deserves $25 million dollars a year to make "hard choices", then that mentality is part of the problem.

    Moreover, if one is even remotely familiar with the state of Blizzard's games at the moment, they need MORE community outreach and non-development roles, not less. WoW is in by far the most precarious state it has ever been in, with even players (like myself) who have stuck around for over a decade completely abandoning ship. I would be shocked at this point if FFXIV and ESO weren't neck and neck in subscribers at this point, which would have been unthinkable even 2 years ago. But we don't know because they stopped releasing their sub data two expansions ago. Their Diablo Immortal announcement was so utterly tone-deaf it caused company stock to tank (and all it took to get it to rise again was firing 800 people). They abandoned their MOBA to maintenance mode.

    On the purely Activision side, Destiny 2 has done so poorly in regards to expectations that they actually handed the license back to Bungie. Call of Duty is Call of Duty. Despite disasters in nearly every area of the company, they still managed to turn a massive profit because every single game is monetized by microtransactions, aside from Diablo, which is why they are now going to turn that series into something akin to Candy Crush. It's not hard to run virtual casinos. Focusing on game development?? What game development?? The only things they have in the pipeline are remasters and some vague promise of Diablo 4 sometime this decade. They are surviving on the wallets of whales, but everyone else is abandoning ship, including this person who has been an avid supporter since 1994 when I was 12 years old. I'm just plain DONE with them, and if I wasn't before, this is certainly the nail in the coffin. Not that my money means anything, but they are going to find out that bad PR can cost money too. Lower expectations for 2019.....yeah, no kidding. And the people responsible for that are also the ones at the top of the food chain. Their announcement of that is nothing more than preemptive blame shifting and moving of the goalposts. Self-inoculation for the people actually responsible for that happening. And it has nothing to do with excessive non-developmental staff.

    It's impossible to separate the predatory trends on the consumer side of the current video game industry equation from the predatory people who made these layoffs a reality. It's all part of the same bullshit. They are going to to suck money through a funnel like a frat member using a beer bong, and it's all flowing to one place, which is the top. Executives and shareholders are literally the ONLY things that matter in corporate America. Workers are given as little consideration as we humans might give an ant on the sidewalk.
  • BillyYankBillyYank Member Posts: 2,768
    LadyRhian wrote: »
    Speaking of AOC, someone on Twitter has spread a lie about her having a 430 Credit Score, 2 Sherriff evictions and 2 checking accounts closed- with no evidence of the same. It's gotten so bad that Snopes had to create a page about it on their website because it is so widely being spread about her by trolls from the Internet. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-credit/

    Can we officially say this is completely BEYOND ridiculous now?

    It's gone from ridiculous to cognitive dissonance. Snopes points out in several of their articles debunking attacks on AOC, Republicans can't decide whether she's so poor that no-one should pay attention to her, or secretly rich and lying about her past. Apparently, they've decided to believe both claims at the same time. Many of the sites running this low credit meme are also running one that claims (without evidence, of course) that the outfit she wore to the SOTU cost $7600.
    LadyRhian wrote: »
    BillyYank wrote: »
    jjstraka34 wrote: »
    What do women's rights, LGBT rights, gun control and Wall Street regulation have to do with higher taxes?? Half of the things on that list have nothing to do with spending money at all.

    And half of what's left mean spending less money. Justice reform = stop paying middlemen to cage people who shouldn't be in jail in the first place. Immigration justice means cutting the border guards, since there would presumably be an easy to get seasonal workers' visa. Medicare for all means not having to buy health insurance and goodbye to the $35 Tylenol capsule.

    I'd also say stop paying Private Prisons to incarcerate people. Stop signing agreements to keep these prisons 90+% full or pay millions of dollars in penalties to the Prisons. How do these prisons get away with this crap? Courts of states feel like they have to incarcerate people or cost their states $$$$. That's inherently exploitative and creates a "need" to put more people in prison to avoid paying money to these Corporations. If they go out of business, that might very well be a good thing.

    That's who I was referring to as "middlemen".
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    jjstraka34 wrote: »
    They were hired to make money for shareholders. As much as humanly possible. And if you think anyone deserves $25 million dollars a year to make "hard choices", then that mentality is part of the problem.

    Moreover, if one is even remotely familiar with the state of Blizzard's games at the moment, they need MORE community outreach and non-development roles, not less. WoW is in by far the most precarious state it has ever been in, with even players (like myself) who have stuck around for over a decade completely abandoning ship. I would be shocked at this point if FFXIV and ESO weren't neck and neck in subscribers at this point, which would have been unthinkable even 2 years ago. But we don't know because they stopped releasing their sub data two expansions ago. Their Diablo Immortal announcement was so utterly tone-deaf it caused company stock to tank (and all it took to get it to rise again was firing 800 people). They abandoned their MOBA to maintenance mode.

    On the purely Activision side, Destiny 2 has done so poorly in regards to expectations that they actually handed the license back to Bungie. Call of Duty is Call of Duty. Despite disasters in nearly every area of the company, they still managed to turn a massive profit because every single game is monetized by microtransactions, aside from Diablo, which is why they are now going to turn that series into something akin to Candy Crush. It's not hard to run virtual casinos. Focusing on game development?? What game development?? The only things they have in the pipeline are remasters and some vague promise of Diablo 4 sometime this decade. They are surviving on the wallets of whales, but everyone else is abandoning ship, including this person who has been an avid supporter since 1994 when I was 12 years old. I'm just plain DONE with them, and if I wasn't before, this is certainly the nail in the coffin. Not that my money means anything, but they are going to find out that bad PR can cost money too. Lower expectations for 2019.....yeah, no kidding. And the people responsible for that are also the ones at the top of the food chain. Their announcement of that is nothing more than preemptive blame shifting and moving of the goalposts. Self-inoculation for the people actually responsible for that happening. And it has nothing to do with excessive non-developmental staff.

    It's impossible to separate the predatory trends on the consumer side of the current video game industry equation from the predatory people who made these layoffs a reality. It's all part of the same bullshit. They are going to to suck money through a funnel like a frat member using a beer bong, and it's all flowing to one place, which is the top. Executives and shareholders are literally the ONLY things that matter in corporate America. Workers are given as little consideration as we humans might give an ant on the sidewalk.

    If you know everyone else is abandoning ship, do you not think the company knows that as well?

    As I said, these layoffs are attempting to get ahead of a problem that they see coming. The backlash to micro transactions has probably made them readjust thier long term goals knowing it will not sustain the company.

    That said, releasing triple A games is also no longer an efficient way to make money. They are in my opinion high risk/low reward scenerios and it takes one failure for the gaming community now to turn on you. once again, look at Fallout 76 for an example of this.

    Their MOBA was a failure. They tried to squeeze into a saturated market and suffered for it. It’s why it had been abandoned the player base is strong enough to keep in on life support but nothing else.

    So where does a company go from there? nostalgia has been proven to be a success so the company is banking off of that like you’ve mentioned. I can see them taking Starcraft to mobile platforms after Diablo as well. What I do know is that they’re not going to churn out 2-3 triple A or even double A games a year like they were in the early naughts.

    And that is how triple A companies are going to start operating (or even have been operating for the last 5 or so years). They are going to rely on their yearly cash cows (EA Sports, Call of Duty, Assasin Creeds), they are going to invest more into mobile for P2W revenue and they’ll release one triple A title every 2 years to get a high reward payout and hopefully get a hit on a new IP (or go out and buy a smaller studio to get their IP and release that) they can bank on.

    That’s the video game market today with indie companies filling in the blanks and it is not going to change.
  • Grond0Grond0 Member Posts: 7,457
    We had discussions some time ago about the Catalan desire for independence. That's been an ongoing story in Spain and has been hotting up again this week.
    - first that's because the trial has started of 12 Catalan leaders on charges of sedition and rebellion (the former President Puigdemont is not one of them - he's still in exile. The leaders face up to 25 years in prison if convicted.
    - the government has just lost its annual budget vote as a result of the Catalan parties voting against it in protest at the refusal to hold talks about independence. That's likely to lead to a third general election in the last 5 years.

    The government's refusal to hold substantive talks about the possibility of independence for Catalonia probably reflects a slight majority opinion in Spain as a whole. This issue cuts across standard political boundaries with the socialists, conservatives and far-right parties joining forces against independence. In fact the government has been criticized for being willing to talk to Catalan leaders at all with recent public protests being organized to try and stop any talks.
  • LadyRhianLadyRhian Member Posts: 14,694
    So, the guy who shoved the BBC Cameraman at the Trump rally has not been charged yet. And remember when Trump said he was going to lower the Deficit? It just hit $22 Trillion. Yep, that's Trillion with a "T". And they are considering confining these migrant kids on Old AirForce Bases contaminated with all sorts of toxic things, like Lead, Arsenic, VOC's (Volatile Organic Compounds) and others. Essentially, these old bases are Superfund Sites. And they want to hold young kids there. Kids, who, because of their small bodies are even more vulnerable to that stuff.

    Trump, at his rally called out President Obama for owning dog in the White House, and claimed "it felt phony" to have a dog in the White House. Anybody here remember Obama got the dogs (he had 2, Bo and Sunny) for his daughters? However, Trump's first wife, Ivanka, says that Trump just hates dogs. And on top of it, Trump doesn't want to pay back pay for Government Contractors during the shutdown. Sounds just like when he was in business... He says he won't sign any bill that pays back Government Contractors. I guess that means they won't work during shutdowns in the future.

    Good news:A Mexican Scientists has found the Cure for HPV (Human PapillomaVirus)! Her name is Eva Ramón Gallegos, and she and her colleagues at the Mexico National Polytechnic Institute made the breakthrough.

  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,371
    Careful about claiming a 'cure' for HPV. Curing a viral infection is pretty difficult. That's why vaccines are the most effective way to combat them normally. The treatment you mentioned looks very promising but it's far from a cure...

    https://www.cancerhealth.com/article/cure-hpv-fast
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