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  • Acrux2Acrux2 Member Posts: 64
    What race is the ranger? Aasimar, Tieflings, and a few others have XP penalties. Alternatively, if the ranger is in the 6th slot, that party member sometimes has lower XP just from how remainders are calculated.
  • ber5nie5ber5nie5 Member Posts: 429
    TSHawk wrote: »
    I have a question about XP. I have a balanced party of 6, we are currently at 3rd level. 5 of the members are at 5371 XP but my ranger is at 4291 XP why is he not with the rest? I have a fighter, barbarian, a rogue, cleric, ranger and wizard.

    Any left over exp from a battle goes to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 in that order. So if your ranger is in the 6th position, he will not get as much experience as the member in the 1st position and so on.

    If you want your ranger to catch up, put him in the 1st position as the party leader.
  • BarazBaraz Member Posts: 48
    edited November 2023
    TSHawk wrote: »
    I have a question about XP. I have a balanced party of 6, we are currently at 3rd level. 5 of the members are at 5371 XP but my ranger is at 4291 XP why is he not with the rest? I have a fighter, barbarian, a rogue, cleric, ranger and wizard.

    That is a 20% difference, which means your ranger is logically a race that gets 20% less experience, a Drow to be specific (Tiefling is -5%; Aasimar is -10%, Deep Gnome is -25%).

    The position of characters does not affect XP: that is rubbish. I am in Ch. 3, and my Human Wizard in position 6 has the same XP as my Human Bard in position 1, and they have never changed positions.

    EDIT: my apologies for using the pejorative term rubbish. It is sort of insulting and I could have said that more neutral. It is quite possible that the mod fixed how XP use to be distributed.
    Post edited by Baraz on
  • TSHawkTSHawk Member Posts: 67
    Baraz wrote: »
    TSHawk wrote: »
    I have a question about XP. I have a balanced party of 6, we are currently at 3rd level. 5 of the members are at 5371 XP but my ranger is at 4291 XP why is he not with the rest? I have a fighter, barbarian, a rogue, cleric, ranger and wizard.

    That is a 20% difference, which means your ranger is logically a race that gets 20% less experience.

    The position of characters does not affect XP: that is rubbish. I am in Ch. 3, and my Human Wizard in position 6 has the same XP as my Human Bard in position 1, and they have never changed positions.

    Agreed that is rubbish. My ranger is a Drow and I didn't see that they got less XP than other races though?
  • Acrux2Acrux2 Member Posts: 64
    Baraz wrote: »

    The position of characters does not affect XP: that is rubbish. I am in Ch. 3, and my Human Wizard in position 6 has the same XP as my Human Bard in position 1, and they have never changed positions.

    It certainly didn't used to be "rubbish". I've played IWD2 many, many times and have seen that behavior first-hand. @OlvynChuru did you change the way XP is rewarded so that the party members will always receive an exactly equal amount?

  • TSHawkTSHawk Member Posts: 67
    Acrux2 wrote: »
    Baraz wrote: »

    The position of characters does not affect XP: that is rubbish. I am in Ch. 3, and my Human Wizard in position 6 has the same XP as my Human Bard in position 1, and they have never changed positions.

    It certainly didn't used to be "rubbish". I've played IWD2 many, many times and have seen that behavior first-hand. @OlvynChuru did you change the way XP is rewarded so that the party members will always receive an exactly equal amount?

    I don't ever remember when I played this game originally that XP was based on party position? They don't do that when you are playing it on Pen and Paper and IWD and Baldurs Gate definately doesn't base it on party position.
  • TSHawkTSHawk Member Posts: 67
    2 more questions, first is there any place where I can buy scrolls in Targos because my wizard is pretty much handicapped with only first level spells and I have 2 slots for 2nd level spells! 2nd question do I have to continue using the IWD2EE icon to launch the game?
  • Adriano34Adriano34 Member Posts: 1
    hey i have a huuge problem , so i quick saved my game while i was in the underdark, solving quest for malavon. Next day when i tried to load my quick save, my party was no longer in the underdark but next to Nickademus in Ice Palace. WHat happened, and how to solve it?
  • Xerxes1811Xerxes1811 Member Posts: 65
    edited November 2023
    TSHawk wrote: »
    2 more questions, first is there any place where I can buy scrolls in Targos because my wizard is pretty much handicapped with only first level spells and I have 2 slots for 2nd level spells! 2nd question do I have to continue using the IWD2EE icon to launch the game?

    Elytharra sells scrolls (Ulbrec's wife). She's in the room to the right of his desk. He's located in the 2nd area north of the docks in the main town hall. Yes, you have to launch the game with the green IWD2EE icon (as administrator).
  • Acrux2Acrux2 Member Posts: 64
    Adriano34 wrote: »
    hey i have a huuge problem , so i quick saved my game while i was in the underdark, solving quest for malavon. Next day when i tried to load my quick save, my party was no longer in the underdark but next to Nickademus in Ice Palace. WHat happened, and how to solve it?

    Are you using GOG cloud saves? Those seem to be a problem with IWD2. If so, I can only recommend turning those off. Unfortunately, the previous progress may be lost.
  • TSHawkTSHawk Member Posts: 67
    Acrux2 wrote: »
    What race is the ranger? Aasimar, Tieflings, and a few others have XP penalties. Alternatively, if the ranger is in the 6th slot, that party member sometimes has lower XP just from how remainders are calculated.

    Drow
  • TSHawkTSHawk Member Posts: 67
    Xerxes1811 wrote: »
    TSHawk wrote: »
    2 more questions, first is there any place where I can buy scrolls in Targos because my wizard is pretty much handicapped with only first level spells and I have 2 slots for 2nd level spells! 2nd question do I have to continue using the IWD2EE icon to launch the game?

    Elytharra sells scrolls (Ulbrec's wife). She's in the room to the right of his desk. He's located in the 2nd area north of the docks in the main town hall. Yes, you have to launch the game with the green IWD2EE icon (as administrator).

    I keep forgetting about her. Thank you
  • BarazBaraz Member Posts: 48
    edited November 2023
    TSHawk wrote: »
    [...] My ranger is a Drow and I didn't see that they got less XP than other races though?
    In-game, if you open any character Record, you will see an Information button near the middle (above scripts). You can see there the descriptions of races, classes, etc. The XP penalty is noted at the very end of a race description.
  • NmesaNmesa Member Posts: 2
    Do I need Almateria Fixpack while playing EE?

    I dont have time to play EE right now, but recently I replayed original game and made notes about every bug, inconcistency and overall weird things that could be done better. If EE has plans to fix the game other than make gameplay and balance changes I could post my notes there.

  • NmesaNmesa Member Posts: 2
    edited November 2023
    Also I am a bit unsure about new spells in EE, would be great to have some kinda youtube video with showcase of them from the developers. I am especially interested in how visual effects look and does it contrast with original ones.
  • TSHawkTSHawk Member Posts: 67
    Baraz wrote: »
    TSHawk wrote: »
    [...] My ranger is a Drow and I didn't see that they got less XP than other races though?
    In-game, if you open any character Record, you will see an Information button near the middle (above scripts). You can see there the descriptions of races, classes, etc. The XP penalty is noted at the very end of a race description.

    Thanks Baraz
  • ZanianZanian Member Posts: 332
    edited December 2023
    I can't for the life of me get this to work. I just did a clean install (disk version, not GOG), installed the mod like you would any other, everything seems fine. No errors. However, when I run IWD2EE.exe, nothing happens. The process just terminates within seconds.

    The IEex.log also doesn't seem to show any errors either:

    IEex Log opened - 01/12/2023 17:29:22
    [*] Game Information:
    Filename: G:\Games\Icewind Dale II Enhanced Edition\IWD2.exe
    Filesize: 5029888
    FileVersion: 2.0.1.0
    ProductName: Icewind Dale II
    ProductVersion: 2, 0, 1, 0

    [*] Options:
    Log: 3
    Lua: 0
    Hex: 1
    Msg: 1

    [*] Debug Information:
    hProcess: 0xFFFFFFFF
    hModule: 0x10000000
    OEP: 0x007E9778
    BaseAddress: 0x00400000
    ImageSize: 0x00621000
    AddressStart: 0x00400000
    AddressFinish: 0x00A21000
    PE Sections: 4
    .text address: 0x00401000
    .text size: 0x00446000

    [*] IEexLuaInit:
    g_lua: 0x00DB01C0

    Loading IEex lua file: G:\Games\Icewind Dale II Enhanced Edition\override\M__IEex.lua
    Successfully loaded IEex lua file
    Executing IEex lua file

    INFO:
    INFO: _luaL_loadstring: 0x100039C2
    INFO: _lua_rawgeti: 0x10003A16
    INFO: _l_log_print: 0x10001BB0
    INFO: _lua_gettop: 0x100039E0
    INFO: _lua_objlen: 0x10003A1C
    INFO: _lua_pushlightuserdata: 0x100039F8
    INFO: _lua_pushvalue: 0x10003A10
    INFO: _lua_touserdata: 0x10003A46
    INFO: _lua_getfield: 0x100039DA
    INFO: _malloc: 0x76E574F0
    INFO: _SDL_LogV: 0x10001C70
    INFO: _lua_pushcclosure: 0x100039F2
    INFO: __imp__GetProcAddress: 0x7660F7F0
    INFO: _lua_toboolean: 0x10003A34
    INFO: _lua_typename: 0x10003A52
    INFO: _free: 0x76E57310
    INFO: _lua_settable: 0x10003A28
    INFO: _lua_settop: 0x10003A2E
    INFO: _lua_setfield: 0x10003A22
    INFO: _lua_pushstring: 0x10003A0A
    INFO: _lua_pcall: 0x100039EC
    INFO: _luaL_loadfilex: 0x100039BC
    INFO: _lua_pushlstring: 0x100039FE
    INFO: _lua_createtable: 0x100039D4
    INFO: __ftol2_sse: 0x76EAAC50
    INFO: _SDL_Log: 0x10001C20
    INFO: _luaL_openlibs: 0x100039CE
    INFO: _g_lua: 0xDB01C0
    INFO: _lua_type: 0x10003A4C
    INFO: _lua_tonumber: 0x10003A40
    INFO: _lua_tolstring: 0x10003A3A
    INFO: _lua_pushnumber: 0x10003A04
    INFO: _luaL_newstate: 0x100039C8
    INFO: __imp__LoadLibraryA: 0x76610E70
    INFO:
    INFO:
    INFO: IEex startup completed successfully!

    And here's the WeiDU.log, which also seems fine.
    // Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
    // The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
    // ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name [ : Version]
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Class Revisions
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #1 // Looser Alignment Restrictions
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #2 // Spell Revisions
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #3 // Spell Focus Feats for All Schools
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #4 // Item Revisions
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #5 // Creature Revisions
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #7 // Better XP Progression -> Partially unnerfed challenge ratings: enemy CR is equal to or slightly less than their level (recommended)
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #8 // More Interesting Alternative to the Palisade Quests
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #94 // Add Additional Ways to Progress Through Certain Areas
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #11 // Faster Wandering Village
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #14 // Faster Dragon's Eye
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #27 // Shorten the Dragon's Eye time loop questline to a single battle
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #17 // Add more scrolls to the game
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #18 // Revised Creature Resistances and Immunities
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #20 // More Accurate Saving Throws for Enemies
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #21 // Revise Critical Hit Immunity -> All creatures become vulnerable to critical hits
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #23 // Better Racial Enemies for Rangers
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #24 // Cosmetic Tweaks
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #93 // More Persuasion Options
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #36 // NPC Core
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #52 // NPCs gain experience upon joining to match the party's experience -> NPCs start with the average experience of the rest of the party
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #37 // Cosmetic improvements to the GUI and new loading screens
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #80 // Looping main theme
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #38 // Revised Battle Square
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #39 // Minor Damage Resistance for Armor and Shields
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #41 // Race Revisions
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #84 // Revise racial level adjustment/ECL
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #43 // Enemies give the same amount of experience regardless of the party's level -> Enemies give 35 * CR experience, enough for a six-character party to reach level 18-19 by the end of the game
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #44 // Adjust encounter level-scaling -> Always fight at least the medium-level version of an encounter
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #46 // Reduce the HP bonuses of creatures in Heart of Fury Mode
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #47 // Reduce the attack bonuses of creatures in Heart of Fury Mode
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #48 // Reduce the Saving Throw bonuses of creatures in Heart of Fury Mode -> Creatures in Heart of Fury Mode get -3 to all saves
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #50 // Remove ability score bonuses of allied summoned creatures in Heart of Fury Mode
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #70 // Have the party start the game with extra experience in Heart of Fury Mode -> Each party member starts HoF with 78000 experience, enough to reach level 13
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #75 // Reduce the delay after a sneak attack before the creature can be sneak attacked again -> Remove it
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #82 // Increase the level cap -> Increase it to 50
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #85 // Always learn spells from scrolls successfully
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #88 // Everyone can perform attacks of opportunity
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #90 // Change the way ability scores are assigned at character creation -> Roll for stats - Plus/minus buttons enabled (like in Baldur's Gate)
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #91 // Add more traps
    ~IWD2EE/IWD2EE.TP2~ #0 #92 // Add key bindings for automating buffing (see the readme for more information)

    Any ideas? Seems like everyone here all uses the Gog version, but if it isn't necessary (and from what I understand, it isn't), that seems like a waste of $10 when my old but trusty disks are still working just fine.

    No additional mods installed btw.
  • Acrux2Acrux2 Member Posts: 64
    Usially that behavior means you haven't updated IWD2 to the latest patch, but it looks from the log like you have.

    Since you're using a custom directory, make sure that the game files are pointing to the right place in the ini. That usually causes a different error, but it doesn't hurt to check.

    Open icewind2.ini (in the game folder where you have IWD2EE installed) in Notepad or another text editor and find the lines that say something like this:

    [Alias]
    HD0:=C:\Program Files (x86)\Black Isle\Icewind Dale II
    CD1:=C:\Program Files (x86)\Black Isle\Icewind Dale II\Data\
    CD2:=C:\Program Files (x86)\Black Isle\Icewind Dale II\CD2\

    You need to edit these lines to point to the new directory where you're playing IWD2EE.
  • ZanianZanian Member Posts: 332
    Acrux2 wrote: »
    Usially that behavior means you haven't updated IWD2 to the latest patch, but it looks from the log like you have.

    Since you're using a custom directory, make sure that the game files are pointing to the right place in the ini. That usually causes a different error, but it doesn't hurt to check.
    Nah it was the first thing. It wasn't patched. I haven't installed a game with discs in so long I forgot manual patches were even a thing. Thanks a bunch.
  • PiratellamaPiratellama Member Posts: 2
    edited December 2023
    Really enjoying the enhanced edition, thanks for all the hard work! All the new content has really made my replays more enjoyable. I was afraid some of it may be overpowered but so far it just seems to be keeping some of my team viable instead of power gaming a specific party through HoF!
    I tried taking a level of monk to add my wisdom bonus to my AC while wildshaped and it didn’t seem to be working. I haven’t looked more into this but wanted to know if this was a bug or part of the revisions. Also my animal empathy doesn’t seem to be doing anything but I don’t think I tried it often. I think I saw there is already an update i have to look into it after this play through!
  • Acrux2Acrux2 Member Posts: 64
    edited December 2023
    Multi-classed monks only get their Wisdom bonus to AC for wildshape if monk is the highest level class.

    Animal Empathy should fixed as of the Nov. 24th update.
  • PiratellamaPiratellama Member Posts: 2
    Ah that explains it then! Awesome, thank you!
  • LemminkainenLemminkainen Member Posts: 9
    Arkandos wrote: »
    Why do Wizards not get their free spells known upon leveling up?

    This was just added/fixed in the latest update to the mod, version 3.2.4, which can be downloaded here: https://github.com/RedChimera/IWD2EE/releases/tag/v3.2.4

    "Wizards now learn two new spells each time they level up, like in PnP."

    You'll need to paste the new content into your IWDII:EE folder (overwriting old stuff), and re-run the Setup-iwd2ee.exe each time you apply an update (but current saved games continue to work fine).
  • LemminkainenLemminkainen Member Posts: 9
    Question: How do you use the Quicken feat? Do you have to leave an empty spell slot two levels higher than the spell you want to cast quickened?
  • HermeticsHermetics Member Posts: 25
    edited December 2023
    you guys come up with any good character builds for the updated classes? 3e always put me in munchkin paralysis. The new options are cool but I'm low key thinking about going back to vanilla classes to keep things simple.

    I never played a non ee edition of a game and I gotta say that ui is absolutely tragic. Honestly it would have been cool if beamdog just used the source code for iwd as a foundation and turned iwd2 into a 2.6 game.
  • RahonaOstrimoRahonaOstrimo Member Posts: 42
    Can someone share a stable version of Dale keeper II or other tools that can be used to edit characters? I wish to change a feat in one of my team characeters.. :) Thanks!
  • RahonaOstrimoRahonaOstrimo Member Posts: 42
    Can someone share a stable version of Dale keeper II or other tools that can be used to edit characters? I wish to change a feat in one of my team characeters.. :) Thanks!
  • RahonaOstrimoRahonaOstrimo Member Posts: 42
    Can someone share a stable version of Dale keeper II or other tools that can be used to edit characters? I wish to change a feat in one of my team characeters.. :) Thanks!
  • RahonaOstrimoRahonaOstrimo Member Posts: 42
    Can someone share a stable version of Dale keeper II or other tools that can be used to edit characters? I wish to change a feat in one of my team characeters.. :) Thanks!
  • RahonaOstrimoRahonaOstrimo Member Posts: 42
    Can someone share a stable version of Dale keeper II or other tools that can be used to edit characters? I wish to change a feat in one of my team characeters.. :) Thanks!
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