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As far as the arrows go, I can confirm with 100% certainty that Hobgoblin Elites never carry any poison arrows and yet somehow still poison my party members.
And as backstab goes? Pff, I still go with my (albeit poorly adviced) strategy of simply hitting things until they die.
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Fair enough.
Baldur's Gate Logic: A dude with no eyes named Gaal tells people they can solve their problems by following him into the sewers and then gouging out their eyes. People go along with it.
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Fair enough.
Baldur's Gate Logic: A dude with no eyes named Gaal tells people they can solve their problems by following him into the sewers and then gouging out their eyes. People go along with it.
I mean, I'm pretty sure there are stories of real life cults with similarly self destructive behaviors. Classically there's the one that drank the poison kool-aid in a suicide pact.
Archers fire poison arrows at the party, yet there are no poison arrows or poison on their corpses....very efficient archers if you ask me.
The reason why some archers in Baldur's Gate fire poison arrows but don't drop any poison arrows is because they come equipped with special poison arrows that are undroppable.
The same goes with Kobold Commandos. They fire special fire arrows that are undroppable, but they have 2 droppable fire arrows in their inventory - that's why they always drop 2 fire arrows, no matter how many they had shot before you killed them.
I remember reading a discussion about the hobgoblin arrows on another forum years ago. Someone had the theory that the first arrows they shoot at you are the ones they've used as butt-scratchers and for picking their fingernails. Makes sense to me.
Keeping around a rabbit foot gives you some of the best bonuses of any item in the game, yet for some reason Alora is the only person who has thought to use one. Did you know that if Alora had multiple rabbit feet equipped, the effects would stack? So why doesn't everyone go on rabbit killing sprees for all the feet? I'm surprised rabbits haven't gone extinct in the Forgotten Realms.
It works in her because she believes in it. That’s how it works.
I don't think lucky charms work like that. Like obviously Alora's rabbit's foot is fantastically lucky but I don't think you could just grab any rabbit's foot and expect the same results. Some rabbit's feet are probably luckier than others.
I don't think lucky charms work like that. Like obviously Alora's rabbit's foot is fantastically lucky but I don't think you could just grab any rabbit's foot and expect the same results. Some rabbit's feet are probably luckier than others.
Wouldn't rabbit's feet be from the 'unlucky' rabbits? I mean, a 'lucky' rabbit would still HAVE all their feet...
I don't think lucky charms work like that. Like obviously Alora's rabbit's foot is fantastically lucky but I don't think you could just grab any rabbit's foot and expect the same results. Some rabbit's feet are probably luckier than others.
Wouldn't rabbit's feet be from the 'unlucky' rabbits? I mean, a 'lucky' rabbit would still HAVE all their feet...
That's why it's so hard to find good ones. The luckiest rabbits tend to escape capture.
Or maybe all rabbits are enchanted and it's just difficult to remove their feet with the enchantment intact. And morbid to carry around the whole rabbit.
Alora: Xzar...why do you have a dead rabbit hanging from your neck? Xzar: Why whatever do you mean, child? Alora: You have a dead rabbit hanging from your neck, it's starting to stink up the place. Tiax: TIAX TAKES OFFENSE TO YOUR ODOR, SLAVE! Alora: See...it's even bothering Tiax Xzar: I simply assumed that if a rabbit's foot is lucky, then perhaps the entire rabbit will make me quite fortunate indeed, though I may have kept some of the parts for...experimentation Alora: ....
In the space of a few months tops between Baldur's Gate and Shadows of Amn Quayle goes from being an arrogant dirtbag who thinks he above everyone else to a calm, humble, mature and rational father figure for Aerie.
Don't get me wrong I always found that heartwarming, but it still makes little sense.
Perhaps someone should create a Quayle Expansion Mod for BG:EE/SOD that writes a story explaining what humbled Quayle so quickly.
I had a save game right after finishing the circus tent in BG2EE so I thought I'd ctrl 'Q' Quayle into the party and check him out. He has the exact same stats he had in BG so there's no increase in wisdom over those months. You'd think that kind of change of personality for the better would be rewarded like Anomen with a boost to his pathetic wisdom score...
I always got the impression that Quayle was just one of those guys who's a better father than a boyfriend. He'll perv on married women and such but he does good by his daughter.
Baldur's Gate Logic: A dude with no eyes named Gaal tells people they can solve their problems by following him into the sewers and then gouging out their eyes. People go along with it.
Even better, he does it by telling them to follow the One True God literally seconds after telling them all gods are fake because "what did they ever do to you".
He also says that clerics are not a proof because mages also cast spells. Come on! You can't cast arcane spells in full plate! Read a damn Dungeon Master's Handbook sometime!
@WatchForWolves You are forgetting that regular commoners aren't exactly the most intelligent people.
Well, the average INT is said to be 10 and it takes 9 to read. Being intelligent and being enlightened is not always the same thing though. Perhaps this particular crowd have a low WIS score on average?
@Skatan Possibly and just because you can read doesn't mean you're intelligent. Everyone I ever went to school with could read but not all of them were the smartest folks around.
On the other side of the coin I would consider myself fairly intelligent but I'm terrible at math and I'm not always a very insightful person.
My INT is probably somewhere around 10 or 11 but my Wisdom is probably more like 8 or 9 tops.
I suspect that reading is a bit more of a specialized skill in the realms though, since there's no public education or anything. In our society everybody learns to read as a matter of course, barring exceptional circumstances, but I don't think that's how it is in the realms.
If I recall some of the forgotten realms novels will have a lot of signs use pictures and stuff. Like The Splurging Sturgeon would have a picture of a splurging sturgeon out front instead of the written words, because not everybody can read.
Literacy is more common in Faerun than the real world was during medieval and Renaissance times. For adventurer characters, all of them start out literate by default unless they're barbarians. I think this is just one of those things where Faerun has some modern-day aspects to make it easier for players to empathize with them. People generally don't want to roleplay characters who are illiterate, ignorant, or malnourished, as most people several hundred years ago were. Faerun is a blend of fairly modern people in a premodern environment.
Adventurers are kind of by their very nature exceptional though. You don't usually roleplay an ordinary peasant with 10 stats across the board, no class skills and a true neutral alignment.
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As far as the arrows go, I can confirm with 100% certainty that Hobgoblin Elites never carry any poison arrows and yet somehow still poison my party members.
And as backstab goes? Pff, I still go with my (albeit poorly adviced) strategy of simply hitting things until they die.
Baldur's Gate Logic: A dude with no eyes named Gaal tells people they can solve their problems by following him into the sewers and then gouging out their eyes. People go along with it.
Some of those ways look downright like self-mutilation as well.
People do weird things=p
Speaking of poking fun at this quest:
I can't remember his name, but he's supposed to be an inside guy who will help you if you say "The Eye is Blind"
However, if you attack the cult before hand, he will actually fight with you on the side of the cult instead of helping you or fleeing.
I guess that's some deep cover.
The same goes with Kobold Commandos. They fire special fire arrows that are undroppable, but they have 2 droppable fire arrows in their inventory - that's why they always drop 2 fire arrows, no matter how many they had shot before you killed them.
Oh I'm well aware of that, it's still hilarious to poke fun at though.
It's fun to think about how self-aware the characters can be sometimes.
"Dorn Il-Khan. The time has come for you to pay the price for your perfidy"
Neera: Yeesh who writes your dialogue, Baeloth?
That's how it works. Seriously, I think you're just missing that obvious point.
Xzar: Why whatever do you mean, child?
Alora: You have a dead rabbit hanging from your neck, it's starting to stink up the place.
Tiax: TIAX TAKES OFFENSE TO YOUR ODOR, SLAVE!
Alora: See...it's even bothering Tiax
Xzar: I simply assumed that if a rabbit's foot is lucky, then perhaps the entire rabbit will make me quite fortunate indeed, though I may have kept some of the parts for...experimentation
Alora: ....
Don't get me wrong I always found that heartwarming, but it still makes little sense.
Perhaps someone should create a Quayle Expansion Mod for BG:EE/SOD that writes a story explaining what humbled Quayle so quickly.
He also says that clerics are not a proof because mages also cast spells. Come on! You can't cast arcane spells in full plate! Read a damn Dungeon Master's Handbook sometime!
You are forgetting that regular commoners aren't exactly the most intelligent people.
But the real mistake is The Unseeing Eye Cult trying to pull this off a mere 11 years after the Time of Troubles concluded.
Possibly and just because you can read doesn't mean you're intelligent. Everyone I ever went to school with could read but not all of them were the smartest folks around.
On the other side of the coin I would consider myself fairly intelligent but I'm terrible at math and I'm not always a very insightful person.
My INT is probably somewhere around 10 or 11 but my Wisdom is probably more like 8 or 9 tops.
If I recall some of the forgotten realms novels will have a lot of signs use pictures and stuff. Like The Splurging Sturgeon would have a picture of a splurging sturgeon out front instead of the written words, because not everybody can read.
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So... chopsticks?