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Eve of War [Abandoned]

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  • RaduzielRaduziel Member Posts: 4,714
    Looks like you're aiming to give more consistency between the storyline and what the game actually presents.

    A suggestion about this: non-magic armors, helmets, and shield should also break eventually. They are made of the same tainted iron as other weapons, after all.
    elminster
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    It's a good idea but isn't there like a mod that covers that already? Like unfinished business or the tweakpack?
    lolien
  • RaduzielRaduziel Member Posts: 4,714
    elminster wrote: »
    It's a good idea but isn't there like a mod that covers that already? Like unfinished business or the tweakpack?

    It does and I know you're already having an epic load of work but I think it fits nicely and there are some people (cof me cof) who has the philosophy: the fewer mods, the better. Avoids conflicts and such.

    BUT it is just a suggestion. And a redundant one if we consider a third-party mod. Maybe some excessive perfectionism or even an OCD strike, who knows.
    elminsterlolien
  • WithinAmnesiaWithinAmnesia Member Posts: 958
    edited June 2019
    @elminster If you want unique high quality BAMs just ask; it is what I do the most.
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  • SirickSirick Member Posts: 92
    edited August 2019
    As someone who works on mods, I can certainly appreciate the time and effort you're putting into this Elminster. My next play through is waiting on the release of this mod, but by no means rush. Greatly looking forward to it!
    Post edited by Sirick on
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    edited August 2019
    Yea honestly do your next playthrough if you are waiting for this. I've got school, then I'm on vacation for a few weeks. I'm not planning on working on this next until September.
    Post edited by elminster on
  • nomadmercnomadmerc Member Posts: 48
    Looking forward to this mod. I like how it adds in a greater sense of danger and more content! Out before 2020?
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    I'm currently in the middle of looking for work/preparing grad school applications. So that's really more my priority at the moment.
    Djinnmodestvolta
  • MaurvirMaurvir Member Posts: 1,090
    I'm presently starting chapter 5 in my current run, so this would definitely be in the next run (which will be a while, since I'm doing a trilogy run). However, I absolutely love this idea for a number of reasons. Chiefly, I always thought it felt a bit odd that the whole place was on the cusp of war, but everyone wandered around like it was a typical Tuesday. However, I also love it because it will change things up, and having played the game so many times, I find it almost impossible not to metagame.

    I'm definitely rooting for you to finish this!
    elminsterThalamond
  • StratosjStratosj Member Posts: 30
    This sounds very intriguing. Big props to you for already getting so much done. I look forward to the result, even if you were to scratch some parts. I would be happy to help test things later when possible. Anyway, you do well to focus on your real life priorities. I say that as I should be studying for exams myself :blush:

    Even if you finished this a few years later than you planned, rest assured I will enjoy the hell out if it in my retirement days :D
    elminster
  • CahirCahir Member, Moderator, Translator (NDA) Posts: 2,819
    Hello @elminster, any progres with this fantastic mod? I hope you did not abandon it.
    elminster
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    Kind of have. Maybe I'll get around to finishing it one day but for now I don't really have either the passion or the time to work on it.
  • MothorMothor Member Posts: 244
    edited April 2020
    Its too bad as the mod sounded impressive.

    Alas most BIG mods that go on for years tend to almost always die. Especially when the person in charge is no longer in high school or college. Having a job eats time away much more than even exam periods.

    IMO there are only two available options.

    1) elminster finds a successor (best for some modder with some reknown and some accomplishments) to finish this project by providing said person with notes that will help finishing the mod according to his vision AND perhaps acting as an "editor" of sorts to give the stamp of approval after checking the final version.

    Though if elminster does not mind then said modder could simply finish it in whatever way he/she would deem it best according to his/hers own creative vision.

    2) elminster can also simply release the mod with stuff that was unfinished being actually cut. That way if the mod was 70% finished it would be possible for people to actually enjoy it even if all the stuff that was originally meant to happen...did not actually happen. After all it would be a waste if so much effort was completely in vain. In fact even an alpha or a demo would be better than that.

    The scope was clearly too big.

    It might also depend if elminster got the most problems with the writing part or the programming part. A full fledged burnout coupled with 0% free time clearly would mean that nothing will come out of it while just some programming issues could be solved perhaps with some help.
    AedanThacoBellStummvonBordwehr
  • CahirCahir Member, Moderator, Translator (NDA) Posts: 2,819
    Hi @elminster I know the chances are slim, but have you changed your mind about finishing Eve of War. Just checking, maybe the situation has changed since your last post here.
    modestvoltaelminster
  • EndarireEndarire Member Posts: 1,512
    @elminster
    What about releasing what you have and encouraging community members to finish this mod?

    Thankee!
    ZoltanavrBrecher
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    Yea like I said before it may happen or it may not happen. I poked at it a bit since then but it is a low priority for me. Either way, if it does get release we're talking something that is years away.
    Cahirbonewhiteglory
  • CahirCahir Member, Moderator, Translator (NDA) Posts: 2,819
    elminster wrote: »
    How about this. When I complete my tutorial on creating a kit I'll re-assess how much work would be required to get this finished.

    I'll see what I can do then and then look at the feasibility of releasing it into the community for people to work on. But if I do this I'll be scrubbing my hands of it. It'll be free for anyone to make their own changes as they see fit.

    Even in its current state there is a lot that is finished with it. So even just running it as it is would give you something.

    I wouldn't even dream about it, yes that sounds great! I'm sure there is so much content there already that would satisfy the needs of many players. Thank you ?
    elminsterStummvonBordwehrEtamin
  • EndarireEndarire Member Posts: 1,512
    @elminster
    Thankee!
    elminster
  • EndarireEndarire Member Posts: 1,512
    @elminster
    GitHub is the best place for coders to contribute to projects. It also has an air of professionalism about it.

    This is my basic guide for GitHub use.

    This is the Gibberlings3 beginner's tutorial for GitHub use. Some of posters in that thread (like Camdawg and Argent and Jastey) have much experience with GitHub and Infinity Engine modding.

    I also would like a list of features you wanted to include in the full scope of this mod (series) but which were cut for reasons of scope/time/energy/etc. This list is easily includable in the README.MD file on your GitHub repo.

    Thankee again for sharing your work with the public!
    ZoltanavrelminsterGrammarsalad
  • CahirCahir Member, Moderator, Translator (NDA) Posts: 2,819
    elminster wrote: »
    Another thing I want to add is that this is a mod whose content rolls out slowly.

    So for instance, if you were to travel to Beregost in Chapter 1 you'll only see a small number of changes in Beregost itself. Move ahead to chapter 2 and you'll see some people training for the town watch. Then in chapter 3 the town watch is much larger.

    By chapter 5 Flaming Fist members are patrolling the streets. What they say to you however will be influenced by the events that have happened (they have random dialog). So for instance, if you killed Bassilus or haven't killed him yet they'll have different dialog about him.

    Same with Ragefast and Ramazith in Baldur's Gate. If you talk to a Flaming Fist member in Beregost they might comment on their murders. By chapter 6 they might say something about the raid on the Iron Throne. In chapter 7 there is a chance they'll recognize you if you talk to them and haven't gone through the ceremony yet.

    So there are going to be things you'll notice right away. But I also didn't want the changes to be too in-your-face.

    This is exactly why I'm so pumped up for this mod to happen. While there are quite a few quality mods out there, that are very fun to play, very few blend in fully with the main game to give you a feeling of playing original game with a bug content patch. Eve of War gives the same vibe from the looks of it, but even more. It's like playing original game on steroids.
    elminsterStummvonBordwehrIsewein
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    edited August 2021
    There are definitely things you will notice right away. Like the Inn in Nashkel having a name, being run by a unique character, and the same with the store there.

    Also Bassilus has a journal on him and if you walk around with it you will have a pretty noticeable condition. But that is also part of a totally optional quest and (if you talk to him about it) Kelddath will take it from you for safekeeping (until you are strong enough to address the quest involving it).

    There is a chunk of main content that I didn't break down into components. Just because its all interrelated and I wouldn't even know where to begin to pull out each thread. But all the Rough World content, most (and I think actually all) of the joinable NPC's, all the Siege of Dragonspear content, etc is partitioned off so you can just install those.

    Actually, it looks like the Nashkel PnP editions are a separate component
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    StummvonBordwehrThacoBell
  • CahirCahir Member, Moderator, Translator (NDA) Posts: 2,819
    elminster wrote: »
    There is a chunk of main content that I didn't break down into components. Just because its all interrelated and I wouldn't even know where to begin to pull out each thread. But all the Rough World content, most (and I think actually all) of the joinable NPC's, all the Siege of Dragonspear content, etc is partitioned off so you can just install those.
    Actually, it looks like the Nashkel PnP editions are a separate component

    I think this is perfectly fine. There is no point to chunk the main part of the mod for dozens of separate components. I think the arrangement you've made is sensible. I, for one, am extremely picky when it comes to installing additional NPC mods, so having the choice here is great (that doesn't mean I won't like NPCs offered by Eve of War, of course :) )

    elminster
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,315
    Yea I looked it over and it looks like Yeorg is a separate component. So all the joinable NPC's should be separate from the main mod. He was the only one I wasn't sure about.
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