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My best roll ever

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  • StormvesselStormvessel Member Posts: 560
    I know, but for some reason I just don't feel right doing that. Yes, I rolled it legit before. But to cheat to reproduce it still doesn't feel right, even though I know that PnP players reproduce characters all the time that were legitimately rolled.

    But more to the point, there is exactly zero difference in Icewind Dale between a Paladin with 18/00, 18, 18, 15, 14, 18 and a Paladin with 18/00, 18, 18, 3, 13, 17. A lot of these real high rolls that people get make absolutely zero difference because of how the game implements ability scores.
    ArctodusThacoBellGallowglass
  • ifupaulineifupauline Member Posts: 393
    I rolled a 98 on a fighter mage.
    ThacoBellStormvessel
  • QuartzQuartz Member Posts: 3,701
    The vanilla BG screenshots in this thread make me happy.
  • ktchongktchong Member Posts: 37
    edited January 23
    I've been using an autoroller app, and rolling stats for over two days. Every late night, I ran BG1EE, partially set up a Cavalier, ran and set up the autoroller, sped up the autoroller, turned off my LCD, and then went to bad. In the mornings, I checked the results. The best I got was (after reassignment):

    STR 18/30
    DEX 18
    CON 18
    INT 15
    WIS 13
    CHA 18

    Which add up to exactly 100 total stat points. (And I put two proficiency points in 2-handed sword and two points in 2-handed weapon in preparation for the Holy Avenger... but it's probably a bad idea for BG1.)

    Still autorolling and aiming for that 18/00 with 100+ stat points.
  • OlderThan13YearsOlderThan13Years Member Posts: 53
    edited January 23
    Autoroller gave my a 106:

    I am planning to continue a playthrough with this character in a few weeks.

    As far as I remember, my best roll without tool was 99 (human fighter).
  • ktchongktchong Member Posts: 37
    edited January 23
    How long did the Autoroller take to give you the 106?

    IMO the least important stat for a Sorcerer is actually intelligence. Wisdom should be 18 to get good choices for the Wish spell, but I suppose you can boost WIS with tomes.

    Is there any benefit for Sorcerer to have 18 INT?

    P.S. I see you went for a straight Sorcerer instead of the Dragon Disciple kit. BTW, if you consider Wish as the inevitable spell choice, then Dragon Disciple > Sorcerer, by a good margin. All the arguments for Sorcerer > Dragon Disciple always ignore Wish. Wish should make the Dragon Disciple's only disadvantage of -1 cast per spell level/day mostly irrelevant when she can refresh her spells on the fly.
  • OlderThan13YearsOlderThan13Years Member Posts: 53
    edited January 23
    ktchong said:

    How long did the Autoroller take to give you the 106?

    I used a rolling script and 8 game instances at once (so I had 8 autorollers which rolled simultaneously). The FPS/Frequency was set to 60 Hz.

    Using this setup I get a roll of 106 after ~7 day till 9 days (105 takes ~3 days, 104 ~1 day). It took ~1 week for this Sorcerer.
    ktchong said:


    IMO the least important stat for a Sorcerer is actually intelligence. Wisdom should be 18 to get good choices for the Wish spell, but I suppose you can boost WIS with tomes.

    Is there any benefit for Sorcerer to have 18 INT?

    Yes, right. You end up with more than 18 wisdom anyway. So it's not that important. Was just for the look (in BG1 you get 19 in every attribute with these stats).
    ktchong said:


    P.S. I see you went for a straight Sorcerer instead of the Dragon Disciple kit. BTW, if you consider Wish as the inevitable spell choice, then Dragon Disciple > Sorcerer, by a good margin. All the arguments for Sorcerer > Dragon Disciple always ignore Wish. Wish should make the Dragon Disciple's only disadvantage of -1 cast per spell level/day mostly irrelevant when she can refresh her spells on the fly.

    Are you a powerplayer?
    Imho a true powerplay playthrough needs a main char with 108 attribute points. That's what I am waiting for.
    So I am not doing a powerplay playthrough with the character (that's why the char is a half-elf and not a elf). It's rather exploitplay. :D

    I guess you're right here. The Dragon Disciple could be better then the Sorcerer. I'll think about your arguments and do some tests.
  • ktchongktchong Member Posts: 37
    edited January 24

    Are you a powerplayer?

    Not really. I am more of a roleplayer, to the extent that I would spend a lot of time coming up with the character's name before I even start playing, (i.e., the name has to fit the context of the world and character's background story.)

    Anyway, I did a lot of research (googling) into Cavalier and Sorcerer before I finally decided on the Cavalier. Like, on and off, I must have done months of research, (which eliminated many other classes before narrowing my final choices down to Cavalier and Sorcerer.) I still want to play Sorcerer if I have the time and opportunity in the future.

    I posted my brief analysis of Sorcerer vs Dragon Disciple in a more relevant discussion thread: https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/63153/help-me-choose-class-for-a-new-trilogy-run
  • StormvesselStormvessel Member Posts: 560
    I respectfully disagree. I still feel that Sorcerer is more powerful than Dragon Disciple, even factoring in Wish.

    What does the Dragon Disciple actually get? Con bonus which isn't useful in the least - I guess you could shoot for 20 con but still, this is hardly an advantage. It gets a breath weapon which is insta-cast and quite useful, but it pales in comparison to some of the high level arcane spells and you only get to cast it once. The fire resistance can be really, really convenient, I won't lie. Sorcerers generally can't afford to select spells like that, so that's pretty good. They end up with -5 AC. *Yawn*. You're still gonna have horrid AC compared to a fighter in full-plate+2. You're going to need to rely on defensive spells regardless if you want to stay alive...or just kill everything before it kills you (again, advantage sorc). The extra HP is convenient but it's piddly and won't keep you from being one shotted by the most powerful enemies late in BG2.

    If you're playing standard difficulty, sure, go with DD. It's fine. But at higher difficulties the DD advantages aren't going to help survivability that much...gimme the extra firepower any day.
  • ZerguuZerguu Member Posts: 37
    98 roll with 100% strength on my Undead Hunter. I wasn't even planing to roll paladin. Completed second chapter and deleted it.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 15,350
    Rolled a 97 today on an undead hunter


    ThacoBellArctodus
  • ZilberZilber Member Posts: 221
    The way rolling works with a paladin, high rolls not hard to do. Now with a straight fighter, thief, mage or cleric there's something different.
  • tbone1tbone1 Member Posts: 642
    No, the best roll ever must be the ones my grandmother made from scratch, but she took the secret recipe to her grave.
    ThacoBellChronicler
  • ArtonaArtona Member Posts: 464
    I just wanted to say that I hate y'all* and your high roles. You make my 94-roll barbarian look like a wimp.
    :<
    *just kidding, of course. You are lovely people. <3
    tbone1
  • MirandelMirandel Member Posts: 228
    I always open my first save in EE Keeper to add bag of holding (I refuse to play without it), but for some stupid RP stubbornness still like to keep my rolls legit and do it manually. There is some kind of bonding in it with your character.
    profanitywarningSkarose
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