Content from Siege of Dragonspear in BG II:EE (Poll)

Ratibor92

One of the most pleasant Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear features is the new companions. All of a sudden we haven't seen the final part of their stories, as it remains unfinished. We suppose the necessity to continue their stories do exist. Just imagine this variety of new interesting quests and romances becoming possible! Some people like Corwin, others (and I personally) like Caelar, and I do want to know what happened with her and others. The possibility of their integration into the main plot of BG2 exists on the level of discussion. That's why we want to find out your own point of view. Should new companions gain the opportunity to be presented at BG2 as well as other characters? Or, at least, some of them? Tell your own thoughts.

gugulug5000

It doesn't even have to be a full on expansion and I would still buy it.

MateoFrozen

Well I only played sod once so i don't have any special sentiment for new npc, aside from M'Khiin , but sadly all her Goblin concept is undeveloped, so if they wanted to add her to BG2 this would require massive amount of work.
I very liked new areas, and for me this was the best sod aspect so yes just for new areas i would be good to add sod npc, even more becouse EENPC and they quest locations also have great art. New items was also great with interesing ideas and new opcodes.
Caelar will give great chance to rescue quest and some kind of roleplaing redemption. We have Saverok and Viconia but i hope it can be made fresh.

StummvonBordwehr

SoD and the ee add ons are really excellent imho. I would very much like to see further BD additions to the saga. The way I see it, BD has earned the right to add further to the saga. They have untill now respected the game and the community.

These add ons could be made optional - and could require players buying further content. This way purists could refrain from buying - and the rest willingly pay.

Dev6

#bringBackCaelar

UnderstandMouseMagic

Fraid I don't agree.

There's no way that they wouldn't almost take over the game and end up with long complicated quests that make the Charname wonder,

"So who's this story about again? Wasn't I meant to be doing something important, oh yeah, rescue Imoen. Could you just remind me who she is again because I forgot while doing bloody fetch quests and sorting out these losers."

Plus, the cut scenes...the cut scenes...

Aedan

Yes, SoD's companions would be a nice addition. I would like to complete my journey with them, especially with Glint.

semiticgoddess

Put M'khiin in the Copper Coronet slave ring, replacing one of the kids. She can join the party when you free her. One dialogue and no new quests for a brand new NPC, all in a way that would fit right in with Shadows of Amn.

You could do the same thing for Voghiln, Glint, and Corwin. Voghiln could be telling tales at the Five Flagons, Corwin could be investigating the missing people in Imnesvale, and Glint could be doing gnomey things somewhere.

deltago

Corwin is a no. She's a flaming fist officer and therefore would operate on the sword coast and not in Amn.
Voghiln iirc is in The Black Pits 2.

M'khiin and Glint can be placed somewhere in the game however, and with them, you can finally run a full shorty party (Glint, M'Khiin, Mazzy, Jan and Korgan)

ThacoBell

Not to meantion the closing of the VERY EGREGIOUS Soultaker plot hole.

semiticgoddess

Corwin could have been subcontracted to do a single job in Amn before returning to Baldur's Gate.

deltago

semiticgod said:

Corwin could have been subcontracted to do a single job in Amn before returning to Baldur's Gate.

Maybe a plot to track down an escaped criminal.

semiticgoddess

Hey, maybe Rejiek Hidesman could be originally from Baldur's Gate! Corwin could be investigating the skinner murders in the Bridge District.

Malicron

Or be looking for you. Good or Evil ending, you are technically a wanted fugitive.

megamike15

corwin will become charname's inspector javert.

OrlonKronsteen

If it can be implemented so the SOD content is only activated if your character was imported from SOD, then I'm for it. If it's forced on everyone, it would be out of place for those of us who don't play SOD, and it would compromise one of the goals of the EEs, which is to preserve the spirit of the original games.

While I'm open to having more NPCs in the game, I also share UnderstandMouseMagic's fears that the SOD characters could overpower the original content, if they're implemented with a heavy hand.

gugulug5000

If they sell it as a DLC then those people who don't want it or who have never played Dragonspear would not need to have the characters in game.

I think they could make any of the characters show up with a little effort. Again, it doesn't have to be a full expansion. If they just released a medium sized DLC, I'd be happy.

lroumen

I would select the ones that make sense. Not all vanilla npcs are in SoA but most have a mentioned closure nonetheless. I would welcome the same treatment for the SoD npcs then. Don't have all joinable but involve them in quests sometimes as bystander, sometimes just being mentioned.
As much as I like Corwin she has no place on Amn. I would much rather have a quest play out linked to her giving some closure without her appearing at all. Alternatively have her appear related to a quest in the government district but have her go home at the end of the quest.

Caelar can get a yoshimo treatment or the reverse, and I would be happy enough with that.

More interesting I would rather have some carry over of the general SoD plot into SoA by having rumours in taverns, town criers, commoners and the like mentioning events that plainly mention SoD proceedings or only hint at any of the events. That would make a nice setup for the cross continuation of some open endings (like soultaker) and give us some SoD related quests.

Aedan

semiticgod said:

Hey, maybe Rejiek Hidesman could be originally from Baldur's Gate! Corwin could be investigating the skinner murders in the Bridge District.

Looking for Neb, maybe?

Raduziel

There's no such thing as enough BG content.

Skatan

I wouldn't mind more content and I am also not afraid of new content overshadowing old content. I've used the current NPCs a billion times, so it's not like adding Glint would make me miss out on content from Anomen, Jan or Viccy or whoever else he would replace.

If Corwin would be added it would be interesting if she hunted CHARNAME (who is a fugitive after all)! It could be a random encounter between areas where she attacks and depending on choices in replies, either it's a fight to the death or a potential ally for a while.

redline

If they released SoD characters for BG2, I'd probably plop down a few bucks for it. I'd even be interested if it only took the form of a more involved, multi-area quest about said NPC(s), rather than a full-blown new party member. New content is always good.

Ultimately, though, I think I'd prefer to have something truly new rather than shoehorning old NPCs into a different area and story. I look at some of the more well-made mod NPCs with unusual kits, races, quests, etc. and find myself craving that same originality with a decent budget behind it. M'khiin kind of fits the bill in that regard, but BD's strategy of only giving her equipment that they have prebuilt sprites for rubbed me the wrong way a bit.

Ravenslight

In general, I’m always a yes vote for more NPC interaction and quests. But only if the original content and flavor of the game is respected. Baldur’s Gate is first and foremost the bhaalspawn's story. I feel that all new content should fit into that story, not overshadow it.

I also feel that making it mandatory that a NPC is in the party in order to enjoy new content should be kept to a minimum.

tbone1

IIRC, @JuliusBorisov once passed along a message that modders who wanted to add SoD NPCs and items to BG2 should go for it. From this, we can surmise that there are no plans for official DLC.

ThacoBell

tbone1 said:

IIRC, @JuliusBorisov once passed along a message that modders who wanted to add SoD NPCs and items to BG2 should go for it. From this, we can surmise that there are no plans for official DLC.

We just need to poke them enough to make it happen.

Malicron

It's entirely possible that it was WotC that weren't interested in more original content. I'd be willing to bet they make more money having Beamdog polish up old games than by developing new ones.

ashafetov

Agreed. It would be great to unite all BG series with old and new companions included. From the other side it will make the whole story line more complex and provide bigger number of choices to make, though. Despite that, the replayability itself will be increased tremendously. I would certainly vote for...

Purudaya

I'm ok with SoD companions not appearing in BG2, but I really have a problem with the lack of narrative tie-in. Getting the tour from the "hooded man" at Spellhold really doesn't make sense anymore without some desperately needed added context.

batoor

Purudaya said:

I'm ok with SoD companions not appearing in BG2, but I really have a problem with the lack of narrative tie-in. Getting the tour from the "hooded man" at Spellhold really doesn't make sense anymore without some desperately needed added context.

Yeah I would like something done about the unfinished soultaker plot.. And while it would be good to reference something about Irenicus, Caelar and stuff as well... That is a big job.

I think SoD companions and their stories work well enough within the expansion. I don't need it continued in BG2.

HonestsGames

#bringBackCaelar

TillNeirath

#bringBackCaelar