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  • RaduzielRaduziel Member Posts: 4,714
    2nd PnP do have rules for scribing scrolls and they are quite severe, exactly because they wanted to prevent a wizard from having and distributing scrolls around.

    And not being able to have a spell is the most common way of losing in AD&D as Raise Dead/Resurrection are a thing but "Restore Lost Scroll" is not.
  • StummvonBordwehrStummvonBordwehr Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 1,385
    And might I add, that I could fully accept a 15% chance of breaking celestial fury when I pick it up - if I have the BG1 weapon proficiency types installed.

    The loss of celestial fury will then be mitigated by picking up another great “great sword”. The loss of the CF is only unbearable if you have invested 5 pips in katana... not if I have 5 pips in great swords.
  •  TheArtisan TheArtisan Member Posts: 3,277
    edited February 2019
    Forget it. Can’t be bothered to start a debate.
  • lroumenlroumen Member Posts: 2,570
    edited February 2019
    Raduziel said:

    Raise Dead/Resurrection are a thing but "Restore Lost Scroll" is not.

    But isn't that because you know the person or vessel that you raise whereas you do not fully know the spell in the scroll?

  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,919
    AionZ said:
    Forget it. Can’t be bothered to start a debate.
    I've found that life online is a lot easier when you don't feel compelled to argue with people.
  • RaduzielRaduziel Member Posts: 4,714
    lroumen said:
    Raise Dead/Resurrection are a thing but "Restore Lost Scroll" is not.
    But isn't that because you know the person or vessel that you raise whereas you do not fully know the spell in the scroll?
    I mean no offense, but I can't see how this raises an argument.

    My point was: even death is not a permanent loss in D&D, but scrolls are.
  • lroumenlroumen Member Posts: 2,570
    edited February 2019
    Understood. I merely suggest that maybe the "knowledge of" is a factor that plays a role.
    Post edited by lroumen on
  •  TheArtisan TheArtisan Member Posts: 3,277
    edited February 2019
    @semiticgod

    Arguing ‘X is right and Y is wrong’ is easy.

    Arguing ‘you like X but I hate X and this is why X sucks’ is a pain and not worth it.
  • BillyYankBillyYank Member Posts: 2,768
    Raduziel said:
    Knowledge is power, wizards know that and they are not willing to share and help other wizards to become powerful - at least not powerful enough to steal their grimoire.
    I think one of the reasons scrolls are so weird in the BG's is the fact that we can't steal anyone's grimoire. I remember playing mages in PnP, where beating a wizard in his lair was like Christmas. Let everyone else argue about the gold and jewels, I want that spellbook! Tranzig and Daevon should have been a windfall for a wizard character. 
  • ChroniclerChronicler Member Posts: 1,391
    Oldie but a goodie.

    You can kill any cow in Candlekeep with impunity. Except for Nessa, Dreppin's Prize Cow, which will turn the town hostile.
  • lroumenlroumen Member Posts: 2,570
    edited February 2019
    Perhaps she is a milk cow and the others are meat cows? ?
  • ChroniclerChronicler Member Posts: 1,391
    Oldie but a goodie.

    You can kill any cow in Candlekeep with impunity. Except for Nessa, Dreppin's Prize Cow, which will turn the town hostile.
    Nessa is the exception. Killing just about any scenery animal in Baldur's Gate (e.g. cows, horses, chickens, cats, rats, bats, squirrels) does not turn nearby townsfolk hostile. Doing so is an effective way to level up early on in Legacy of Bhaal, since these animals don't fight back, they are usually unarmed (giving you +4 to hit and damage against them), and they each give over 2000 experience if you have the bonus experience turned on.

    I just think it's a fun touch. He talks about how much he loves this particular cow, his prize winning cow, and that's reflected in how the NPC's react when you kill her.

    Though now that I think about it I do have to question what festivals it was winning prizes at. Do people come to candlekeep to show off their cows? Does he take his cows out into the world, to show them off at festivals, then pay the exorbitant fee to reenter candlekeep every time?

    I have to assume that some merchants are allowed to enter to peddle their wares without paying the fee, so maybe he gets clearance by bringing cow stuff in and out of town.
  • ThelsThels Member Posts: 1,454
    Oldie but a goodie.

    You can kill any cow in Candlekeep with impunity. Except for Nessa, Dreppin's Prize Cow, which will turn the town hostile.
    Nessa is the exception. Killing just about any scenery animal in Baldur's Gate (e.g. cows, horses, chickens, cats, rats, bats, squirrels) does not turn nearby townsfolk hostile. Doing so is an effective way to level up early on in Legacy of Bhaal, since these animals don't fight back, they are usually unarmed (giving you +4 to hit and damage against them), and they each give over 2000 experience if you have the bonus experience turned on.

    I just think it's a fun touch. He talks about how much he loves this particular cow, his prize winning cow, and that's reflected in how the NPC's react when you kill her.

    Though now that I think about it I do have to question what festivals it was winning prizes at. Do people come to candlekeep to show off their cows? Does he take his cows out into the world, to show them off at festivals, then pay the exorbitant fee to reenter candlekeep every time?

    I have to assume that some merchants are allowed to enter to peddle their wares without paying the fee, so maybe he gets clearance by bringing cow stuff in and out of town.
    Or maybe it's just an event inside Candlekeep, and Nessa keeps winning due to lack of competition.
  • JoenSoJoenSo Member Posts: 910
    Wouldn't surprise me if the Candlekeep entrance fee is just a huge sham to keep that darn bhaalspawn out. Merchants, servants and random wannabe-assassins have no problems with it.
  • InKalInKal Member Posts: 196
    Firkraag has WIS 3 and CHAR 9.

    for comparison Gromnir has WIS 10 and CHAR 12 respectively. L O L 

    also Cattie Brie is male. Oh, yes! She is Drizzt actually, OG devs changed only name, didn't bother with anything else. Mizhena much, internet?




  • Wise_GrimwaldWise_Grimwald Member Posts: 3,875
    Oldie but a goodie.

    You can kill any cow in Candlekeep with impunity. Except for Nessa, Dreppin's Prize Cow, which will turn the town hostile.
    Nessa is the exception. Killing just about any scenery animal in Baldur's Gate (e.g. cows, horses, chickens, cats, rats, bats, squirrels) does not turn nearby townsfolk hostile. Doing so is an effective way to level up early on in Legacy of Bhaal, since these animals don't fight back, they are usually unarmed (giving you +4 to hit and damage against them), and they each give over 2000 experience if you have the bonus experience turned on.
    Before the rules were changed I sometimes used to kill cows with the ugly stick (A staff that reduced charisma by 1 occasionally) whilst wearing Algernon's Cloak. This raised my charisma to 25. Can't do it now. :'(
  • ThelsThels Member Posts: 1,454
    Oldie but a goodie.

    You can kill any cow in Candlekeep with impunity. Except for Nessa, Dreppin's Prize Cow, which will turn the town hostile.
    Nessa is the exception. Killing just about any scenery animal in Baldur's Gate (e.g. cows, horses, chickens, cats, rats, bats, squirrels) does not turn nearby townsfolk hostile. Doing so is an effective way to level up early on in Legacy of Bhaal, since these animals don't fight back, they are usually unarmed (giving you +4 to hit and damage against them), and they each give over 2000 experience if you have the bonus experience turned on.
    Before the rules were changed I sometimes used to kill cows with the ugly stick (A staff that reduced charisma by 1 occasionally) whilst wearing Algernon's Cloak. This raised my charisma to 25. Can't do it now. :'(
    Ehh, if you rely on serious exploits to pull something like that off, may as well Keeper it in...
  • lroumenlroumen Member Posts: 2,570
    There is a difference between doing it in game and doing in outside of the game ;).

    I liked the rod of reverse beautification.
  • ChroniclerChronicler Member Posts: 1,391
    JoenSo said:
    Wouldn't surprise me if the Candlekeep entrance fee is just a huge sham to keep that darn bhaalspawn out. Merchants, servants and random wannabe-assassins have no problems with it.

    My assumption is that Carbos and Shank didn't enter the Candlekeep through the front door. There are always ways to bypass inconvenient laws if you're so inclined.
  • Wise_GrimwaldWise_Grimwald Member Posts: 3,875
    JoenSo said:
    Wouldn't surprise me if the Candlekeep entrance fee is just a huge sham to keep that darn bhaalspawn out. Merchants, servants and random wannabe-assassins have no problems with it.

    My assumption is that Carbos and Shank didn't enter the Candlekeep through the front door. There are always ways to bypass inconvenient laws if you're so inclined.
      Bribery, stealth, climbing the walls etc.
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,919
    Have any of you ever noticed a Simulacrum clone automatically canceling any orders you give it? I've had this problem for a long time in my installs, and it looks like there's a curious SCS scripting issue that's causing it.

    In SCS, Simulacrum clones start with the DW#IMAGE.bcs script, which is mostly used to assign a more appropriate script for the clone (so, a lich clone is assigned a different script from a beholder clone). Here's the thing: the script starts with a couple of blocks that assign the clone a special script if the clone is friendly to the player:
    IF
    	OnCreation()
    	!Allegiance(Myself,ENEMY)
    	!Gender(Myself,ILLUSIONARY)
    THEN
    	RESPONSE #100
    		ChangeAIScript("d0simul",GENERAL)
    END
    
    IF
    	OnCreation()
    	!Allegiance(Myself,ENEMY)
    	Gender(Myself,ILLUSIONARY)
    THEN
    	RESPONSE #100
    		ChangeAIScript("d0pimag",GENERAL)
    END
    
    Those two scripts, d0simul and d0pimage, don't appear to exist anywhere in SCS; there's no such script file either in the override folder or in the stratagems folder. In fact, when I Google d0simul, the only references date back many years ago. This means the standard script in SCS simply gives player-created clones a blank script, so they won't do anything the player doesn't order them to.

    At the end of the script, though, enemy clones get assigned a different script, DW#2CONI.bcs, if they didn't qualify for any of the more specific scripts.

    I checked my clones in-game using CTRL-M and found the problem: the clones that weren't working properly (the clones that would cancel my orders and sometimes cast Divination spells if my main character was invisible) had the DW#2CONI.bcs script, which presumably is supposed to be for enemy clones only. My clones that did work properly had the dummy script, d0simul.

    So why did some of my clones have the dummy script, while others had a malfunctioning enemy script?

    Apparently, if you give any order to a clone the instant it is created, then for some reason it will skip the block that gives it the dummy script. Instead, it will get the malfunctioning enemy script. For example, I have auto-pause on spell cast, and sometimes I would immediately give a clone an order the instant it was created. All of those clones got broken scripts.

    However, if I leave the clone alone for a second or two, it will go from the idle animation to the "in-combat" animation (the one where it holds up its weapons, if it has any), and then it will obey orders normally, because it has the dummy script.

    So, if you have SCS and you're having trouble getting your Simulacrum clones to behave, just leave them alone for a couple seconds after creating them. After a second or two, they'll get assigned a dummy script that won't interfere with any of your commands, and they'll behave just like they're supposed to.
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