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  • shabadooshabadoo Member Posts: 324
    We would never ignore you, you are a friend. Here you are loved and appreciated, and we all want help lighten your burden. I'm so sorry for your friend, and I'll pray for their recovery. Try to relax, and for goodness sake, eat something. Remember that you are not responsible for other people's happiness, you can only take care of so much and the rest is up to fate/God/ or whatever else you may believe in.
    JuliusBorisovsemiticgoddessSon_of_ImoenStummvonBordwehr
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    Transphobes are garbage. You don't see people shouting at burn victims that burn scars are permanent. You don't say rape survivors are crazy or in denial when they want to heal and escape the trauma. You don't tell people in wheelchairs that they can't walk.

    Take care of yourself, Michelle. Don't lose too much sleep and remember to eat. You deserve it. I'm sorry COVID is hitting so close to home, and I wish people were kinder to trans folks, too.
    Rik_KirtaniyaThacoBellStummvonBordwehr
  • Rik_KirtaniyaRik_Kirtaniya Member Posts: 1,742
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  • ThacoBellThacoBell Member Posts: 12,235
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    Healthcare insurance in the United States is absolute garbage. We shell out tons of money just to fill the pockets of pointless middlemen who only exist to siphon money from the system. Insurance companies charge as high premiums as they can get away with and try with all their might to avoid covering healthcare when we ask them to live up to their end of the bargain. It's a poorly-regulated system based on market forces and profit instead of the public good, and for all the money we spend, we're not even healthier than folks in similar countries.

    It's so bad that a lot of folks here go without healthcare because they just can't bear the insane costs, and others go broke or into debt paying for treatments they can't live without.

    Sorry if I'm misinformed, but didn't the USA finally get public health insurance with Obamacare? What went wrong that it's still such a mess?

    It's not 'free'...

    Let me fix that for you, ahem: "It doesn't match the barest of standards from literally every other devleoped nation in the world, with a majority of Americans not able to afford basic healthcare, let alone the specialists necessary for many to just not die. We pay more for healthcare than any other nation in the world, and yet so few can actually access it."


    As for Obamacare, it got ripped apart by the Republican party, bafflingly, the party that WROTE Obamacare. It was better when it started out, then the premiums started rising...
    BelgarathMTHSon_of_ImoenStummvonBordwehr
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,367
    ThacoBell wrote: »
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    Healthcare insurance in the United States is absolute garbage. We shell out tons of money just to fill the pockets of pointless middlemen who only exist to siphon money from the system. Insurance companies charge as high premiums as they can get away with and try with all their might to avoid covering healthcare when we ask them to live up to their end of the bargain. It's a poorly-regulated system based on market forces and profit instead of the public good, and for all the money we spend, we're not even healthier than folks in similar countries.

    It's so bad that a lot of folks here go without healthcare because they just can't bear the insane costs, and others go broke or into debt paying for treatments they can't live without.

    Sorry if I'm misinformed, but didn't the USA finally get public health insurance with Obamacare? What went wrong that it's still such a mess?

    It's not 'free'...

    Let me fix that for you, ahem: "It doesn't match the barest of standards from literally every other devleoped nation in the world, with a majority of Americans not able to afford basic healthcare, let alone the specialists necessary for many to just not die. We pay more for healthcare than any other nation in the world, and yet so few can actually access it."


    As for Obamacare, it got ripped apart by the Republican party, bafflingly, the party that WROTE Obamacare. It was better when it started out, then the premiums started rising...

    I must be missing something. The question was what's wrong with our healthcare system and I answered it's not free. Is that not what the problem is?
  • Son_of_ImoenSon_of_Imoen Member Posts: 1,806
    edited January 2021
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    ThacoBell wrote: »
    Let me fix that for you, ahem: "It doesn't match the barest of standards from literally every other devleoped nation in the world, with a majority of Americans not able to afford basic healthcare, let alone the specialists necessary for many to just not die. We pay more for healthcare than any other nation in the world, and yet so few can actually access it."


    As for Obamacare, it got ripped apart by the Republican party, bafflingly, the party that WROTE Obamacare. It was better when it started out, then the premiums started rising...

    I must be missing something. The question was what's wrong with our healthcare system and I answered it's not free. Is that not what the problem is?

    Yes, you're missing something. A healthcare system needn't be free. It just needs to be affordable and give access to health care and health care insurance for everyone. In explaining what went wrong and in why Obamacare which was meant to fix the abysmal system (or lack thereof) in the USA didn't fix the problems, as proven by the posts above about people unable to get insurance for necessary care (which the Dutch system is able to for most people, with the basic insurance being just over 100 euros - just over 110 dollars in US currency - if you're living on the poverty line) @BelgarathMTH and @ThacoBell did a far better job than you who just stated 'it isn't free' as if that would answer my question.

    What's wrong with my post is the usual Son_of_Imoen writing of sentences-within-sentences. The short version: @BelgarathMTH and @ThacoBell did a better job in explaining to me why Obamacare didn't work out the way it was meant to be, as was my question.
    ThacoBell
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    This would probably be better suited for the politics thread, which currently is closed. Maybe we could continue this conversation there, when it reopens.
    shabadooStummvonBordwehr
  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 7,367
    Balrog99 wrote: »
    ThacoBell wrote: »
    Let me fix that for you, ahem: "It doesn't match the barest of standards from literally every other devleoped nation in the world, with a majority of Americans not able to afford basic healthcare, let alone the specialists necessary for many to just not die. We pay more for healthcare than any other nation in the world, and yet so few can actually access it."


    As for Obamacare, it got ripped apart by the Republican party, bafflingly, the party that WROTE Obamacare. It was better when it started out, then the premiums started rising...

    I must be missing something. The question was what's wrong with our healthcare system and I answered it's not free. Is that not what the problem is?

    Yes, you're missing something. A healthcare system needn't be free. It just needs to be affordable and give access to health care and health care insurance for everyone. In explaining what went wrong and in why Obamacare which was meant to fix the abysmal system (or lack thereof) in the USA didn't fix the problems, as proven by the posts above about people unable to get insurance for necessary care (which the Dutch system is able to for most people, with the basic insurance being just over 100 euros - just over 110 dollars in US currency - if you're living on the poverty line) @BelgarathMTH and @ThacoBell did a far better job than you who just stated 'it isn't free' as if that would answer my question.

    What's wrong with my post is the usual Son_of_Imoen writing of sentences-within-sentences. The short version: @BelgarathMTH and @ThacoBell did a better job in explaining to me why Obamacare didn't work out the way it was meant to be, as was my question.

    I stand by my answer. No matter how cheap you make it, there will always be people who can't afford it and thus can't get it. The system will always fail somebody until it's free. Even then it will fail because rich people will still get the better doctors and better treatments as long as they have the option of opting out and getting private insurance. The only way for it to be free 'and' fair, is if everybody, rich or poor, had to use the exact same system.

    My earlier answer was a lot shorter... ?

    Also, I'll stop the derailment now.
    Son_of_Imoen
  • MichelleMichelle Member Posts: 549
    So wonderful, YouTube removed that video. :smiley: Won't complain.

    Had a falling out with a longtime friend though yesterday. The conversation ended with, My friend was erased years ago. You have to understand that you are different.

    Well duh! Kinda the point. What did he expect would happen? He abandoned me anyway, through the awful years he was not there. Then he comes back into my life and expected everything to be the same? How? When I was unconscious in the hospital, where was he? When people threatened and made fun of me, where was he? Want me to take care of your urges after you left your wife and abandoned the girl you left her for? Not bloody likely. Somehow my change is the reason you are pathetic? Probably not.

    Still feel bad. He left me when I needed him most but now I feel guilty. Twisted world we live in. I seriously hate being me.

    Why would he expect that I was the same? Can't be both and fit into either, doesn't work that way. Thing is, he missed it completely and felt he was blindsided. My other guy friend saw me stop pretending long ago and treated me accordingly. Meh, no loss, just sad.
    StummvonBordwehrsemiticgoddess
  • MichelleMichelle Member Posts: 549
    Watched the movie on Netflix, I Care About You tonight. Made me want to vomit the whole movie. Sorry, taking advantage of people should never be romanticized. I own Focus and it is funny and charming and I still hate that they are romanticizing the victimization of people to make a movie. This movie though, eww! Eww! Eww! What they did in this movie made me so sick. I watched in horrid fascination hoping everyone would get their’s, but they didn’t just 2 minutes in the very end, if that. Taking advantage of people is so very wrong, taking advantage of the helpless is wrong to the tenth power. What is your world? Is that it? I am sooooooo very glad I have never been a part of it if that is the case.

    Ugh! I feel so unclean now, like a three day shower could not get the stench off of me. Eww! Why would anyone make something like that?
    StummvonBordwehrmlnevese
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    I was writing something on my phone earlier today and autocorrect suggested "rapists" when I typed the phrase "trans women are." The AI learns from people.

    That's what people write to each other.
    StummvonBordwehrArviamlneveseMichelle
  • ArviaArvia Member Posts: 2,101
    I was writing something on my phone earlier today and autocorrect suggested "rapists" when I typed the phrase "trans women are." The AI learns from people.

    That's what people write to each other.

    I'm sorry for how that must make you feel.

    Just don't forget, this is like using a search engine or something. Wherever the words appear, in whichever context, influences the probability of those words being connected. The phrase most written might actually have been "it's disgusting how some people try to spread hate and suggest that trans women are rapists" or something like that. Or at least every time someone uses those words in a criticizing context influences the AI choice just as much as the haters using the actual phrase.

    I'm not trying to contradict your experiences or tell you that you're wrong, I absolutely believe you have unfortunately faced more than enough actual hate or rejection and seen your fair share of transphobes online and offline, I'm just trying to say it's probably not quite as representative of the majority as it might seem at first glance...

    mlneveseMichellesemiticgoddess
  • mlnevesemlnevese Member, Moderator Posts: 10,214
    I would suggest you use GBoard from Google or SwiftKey from Microsoft. Their algorithms are much smarter about things like this. It won't correct what you saw but you'll never have to see something like this again.
  • MichelleMichelle Member Posts: 549
    I was writing something on my phone earlier today and autocorrect suggested "rapists" when I typed the phrase "trans women are." The AI learns from people.

    That's what people write to each other.

    I don’t know anything about autocorrect other than it can be annoying. I know you are a fighter, trying to make it better and I know I am nothing like that. Don’t lose heart. Things have changed so much, and I know that things are not great right now but that is because someone deliberately nurtured an environment of hate for four years, but don’t lose yourself in their hate. This is not about winning or losing, it is about surviving and living as yourself. Let go. Fight where you can and let the rest go or the fight will mutate you before you ever win. Find yourself, that is the goal, that is the struggle, it is where you can achieve success. Fight against the hate and it will grind you into the ground.

    Always here if you need a shoulder.
    Take care
    mlneveseStummvonBordwehrsemiticgoddess
  • MichelleMichelle Member Posts: 549
    It is weird. I have experienced it all, from randos on the street to doctors, lawyers even the governor. There is no exemption, my friend's husband's have been as inappropriate as anyone. Lost my best friend of 20 years because of it. I honestly don't understand but it has become important for me to completely ignore men I don't know and be very careful with those I do. It was very, very hard at first, I was raised to be polite and they really ingrained that in me. It gets scary though and for me... well, my friends are what I hold most dear.

    It has to be harder when we have no experience and are thrust into it. I have no mother, my sister has only talked to me four times in the last four months, not at all in the last month and not for 15 years before. My best friend seemed in competition with me before she dropped me because her boyfriend put his arm around my waist when we were waiting to be seated at a restaurant.

    50% of the planet has had a lifetime of experience with this and still don't know what to do, is it any wonder that it could come as a shock to us? There should be a school for these things, and I suppose there is for the natal women, coming at it late in life. Sorry, I can't help. It is as terrifying for me as it is for you. Then there are the occasional women, ugh! You think you are safe, well probably you are but... Went to a club one night, the waitress said like the second or third time she came to our table, You are awesome. Ooooookkkkaaaayyyy. By the end of the night every time she came to our table she would look me in the eye if she was in front of me or put her hand on my shoulder if she was behind me and say, I love you. I seriously never held out any hope of being a woman for most of my life, nothing could have prepared me for actually being one.

    Worth it all but there are adjustments.
    mlnevesesemiticgoddessStummvonBordwehr
  • Son_of_ImoenSon_of_Imoen Member Posts: 1,806
    Michelle wrote: »
    I will be okay. I will wake up Sunday morning in a new place. Apartment unfortunately, like I said home prices are too high right now to buy. Anyway, I will move on. Just wow, it is really crushing me right now.

    Michelle, you moved two days ago, how are you doing?

    semiticgoddessStummvonBordwehr
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