Let's stick to what I said, not a caricature of what I said you are trying to make. I never said anything about a deep state, period.
How was that a caricature of what you said? You clearly said that FBI is not a right leaning organization because it was being staffed by "opponents of the right" for the last 8 years.
Let's not get into semantics. Like I said before, this thread isn't here for anyone to "win" debates. This thread is about politics, not your fellow forumites.
If you have a teenage daughter who is completely lactose intolerant, like ours, then you accept a higher amount of soy in the house. Also, tofu is *extremely* versatile and quite tasty--I used it when I made my own stir fry, eons ago when I actually cooked.
Incidentally, I literally grew up around soybeans. In the late 70s, our house was about 1km away from the warehouse/loading dock for a large soybean farm; the farm itself was probably only 4km from the house--our father would often go pistol-shooting with the owner of the farm. It was probably 1978 when a flood hit, though, and the levee separating his farm from the river broke, inundating his fields. I was too young to know any details but I suspect he took the insurance and Dept. of Agriculture settlements then retired--satellite imagery of that location still shows the levee break to this day because the land is listed as being Federal property now. None of that was relevant...but so what?
If you have a teenage daughter who is completely lactose intolerant, like ours, then you accept a higher amount of soy in the house. Also, tofu is *extremely* versatile and quite tasty--I used it when I made my own stir fry, eons ago when I actually cooked.
Incidentally, I literally grew up around soybeans. In the late 70s, our house was about 1km away from the warehouse/loading dock for a large soybean farm; the farm itself was probably only 4km from the house--our father would often go pistol-shooting with the owner of the farm. It was probably 1978 when a flood hit, though, and the levee separating his farm from the river broke, inundating his fields. I was too young to know any details but I suspect he took the insurance and Dept. of Agriculture settlements then retired--satellite imagery of that location still shows the levee break to this day because the land is listed as being Federal property now. None of that was relevant...but so what?
I'm a man, estrogen bad. Has she/you tried Almond milk?
I love almond milk. The local HEB has a very cheap unsweetened vanilla almond milk I use as a palate cleanser and to take medicine. It has less than a third of the calories of normal milk and has basically no sugar. I've been drinking almond milk so long than regular milk now tastes too sweet--like someone poured a bag of sugar in it!
He's manipulating you though. Also most of this forum.
Reacting to someone's words and actions is not the same as being manipulated.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all This was an interesting piece that @jjstraka34 posted - I'd not seen that before. There are some good tidbits in there confirming Trump's behavior as President has not changed from earlier years. For instance on lying Schwartz says: - over the decades, Trump appeared to have convinced himself that he had written the book. Schwartz recalls thinking, “If he could lie about that on Day One—when it was so easily refuted—he is likely to lie about anything.” - “He lied strategically. He had a complete lack of conscience about it.” Since most people are “constrained by the truth,” Trump’s indifference to it “gave him a strange advantage.”
I'm a man, estrogen bad. Has she/you tried Almond milk?
She has tried it, along with goat milk and cashew milk, but she prefers the soy...except for ice cream--her favorite is made with coconut milk. The goat milk in a carton is a little pricey but the cheeses she eats are either goat or sheep. I drink 2% milk because I am old and set in my ways, except for when I stopped using sugar in my coffee--that switch cut a majority of my sugar intake because I drink a lot of coffee.
Someone mentioned a tape which Spanish intelligence agencies turned over to the FBI earlier. Well, now Spain has a new Prime Minister, Pedro Sanchez, after Mariano Rajoy finally suffered a "no confidence" vote because of a long-standing corruption scandal. Truthfully, at this time I am uncertain if this will change the situation with Catalonia--its leaders are still in jail and at least half its citizens want to declare independence.
I'm a man, estrogen bad. Has she/you tried Almond milk?
She has tried it, along with goat milk and cashew milk, but she prefers the soy...except for ice cream--her favorite is made with coconut milk. The goat milk in a carton is a little pricey but the cheeses she eats are either goat or sheep. I drink 2% milk because I am old and set in my ways, except for when I stopped using sugar in my coffee--that switch cut a majority of my sugar intake because I drink a lot of coffee.
Someone mentioned a tape which Spanish intelligence agencies turned over to the FBI earlier. Well, now Spain has a new Prime Minister, Pedro Sanchez, after Mariano Rajoy finally suffered a "no confidence" vote because of a long-standing corruption scandal. Truthfully, at this time I am uncertain if this will change the situation with Catalonia--its leaders are still in jail and at least half its citizens want to declare independence.
Trump's tax cuts are working wonders. So glad we have him, unlike the disaster Obama gave us for eight years. He's fulfilling his campaign promises and MAGA. Remember when Obama mocked Trump when Trump claimed he was going to bring jobs back? Socialism doesn't work.
@GaelicVigil: As I mentioned in my review near the anniversary of Trump's inauguration, nearly all metrics for Trump's presidency followed the exact same trends as under Obama's tenure, as I had predicted earlier in the thread. Unemployment, for example, has been going down since 2010. The economy is strong, but it was strong before Trump. That's what the data over the past several years indicate.
As for goat milk, I've tried it but wasn't very fond of it. It tasted too much like goat cheese. Which is odd, since I love goat cheese. There are two little plates on my bed right next to me that I used to eat goat cheese with tortilla chips.
So what in the hell is this?? Now we are going to nationalize the energy markets?? THIS is small government?? Forcing grid operators where to buy from to prop up certain companies??
It’s also amusing that Trump was yelling from the tallest building saying that those employment numbers are made up and America under Obama is worse than it appears.
Once he’s in office though “poof” no more talk of fake numbers (unless you know America starts entering a recession and then it’s back on).
It’s also amusing that Trump was yelling from the tallest building saying that those employment numbers are made up and America under Obama is worse than it appears.
Once he’s in office though “poof” no more talk of fake numbers (unless you know America starts entering a recession and then it’s back on).
He also tweeted about them BEFORE they came out, which is technically market manipulation, since he already knew what they were:
If he is willing to do this, how do we know he isn't tipping off friends and family to make money off the info??
Trump isn't even capable of taking what is legitimately good news for him without pushing the envelope and possibly breaking federal rules.
And yes, as @deltago said, Trump has been claiming the unemployment numbers were flat-out fake for YEARS. For the record, I believe them because it falls in line with exactly what has been happening for 8 years. I'm not turning around doing a 180 yelling "fake". But that is exactly what Trump did the moment he took office. And as soon as a downturn hits, they will be fake again.
@GaelicVigil: As I mentioned in my review near the anniversary of Trump's inauguration, nearly all metrics for Trump's presidency followed the exact same trends as under Obama's tenure, as I had predicted earlier in the thread. Unemployment, for example, has been going down since 2010. The economy is strong, but it was strong before Trump. That's what the data over the past several years indicate.
The fact is that Obama's economy was never as good as Trump's. As I quoted above, even Obama himself believed it would never get any better by his own estimation. Then again, Obama laughed at the idea that Trump would even be elected President. He was wrong about a lot of things.
And yes, "Democrat Party" is a perfectly fine way of calling it. As in, "the party of the Democrats". That's proper english.
It’s also amusing that Trump was yelling from the tallest building saying that those employment numbers are made up and America under Obama is worse than it appears.
Once he’s in office though “poof” no more talk of fake numbers (unless you know America starts entering a recession and then it’s back on).
He also tweeted about them BEFORE they came out, which is technically market manipulation, since he already knew what they were:
If he is willing to do this, how do we know he isn't tipping off friends and family to make money off the info??
Trump isn't even capable of taking what is legitimately good news for him without pushing the envelope and possibly breaking federal rules.
And yes, as @deltago said, Trump has been claiming the unemployment numbers were flat-out fake for YEARS. For the record, I believe them because it falls in line with exactly what has been happening for 8 years. I'm not turning around doing a 180 yelling "fake". But that is exactly what Trump did the moment he took office. And as soon as a downturn hits, they will be fake again.
@GaelicVigil: As I mentioned in my review near the anniversary of Trump's inauguration, nearly all metrics for Trump's presidency followed the exact same trends as under Obama's tenure, as I had predicted earlier in the thread. Unemployment, for example, has been going down since 2010. The economy is strong, but it was strong before Trump. That's what the data over the past several years indicate.
The fact is that Obama's economy was never as good as Trump's. As I quoted above, even Obama himself believed it would never get any better by his own estimation. Then again, Obama laughed at the idea that Trump would even be elected President. He was wrong about a lot of things.
And yes, "Democrat Party" is a perfectly fine way of calling it. As in, "the party of the Democrats". That's proper english.
You know very well what it is and where it comes from. It is a pejorative that is only used in conservative media. Calling it the "Democrat" party would be like calling the Republican Party the "Republic" party. But quite pretending it isn't something you hear constantly in conservative media, because I've listened to way too much of it for way too long to not know why you are using it in that way. At least admit it. You can call it whatever you want, but I'm going to call it out for what it is. There is, in fact, an entire Wikipedia page about it:
So what in the hell is this?? Now we are going to nationalize the energy markets?? THIS is small government?? Forcing grid operators where to buy from to prop up certain companies??
Coal doesn't "need" any help. As a good business man, Trump sees it as a good investment and is helping it expand even further. Unlike the green energy investments under Obama that still went belly up even after he threw $90 billion into it from the 2009 Stimulus. Remember the Solyndra bankruptcy that cost taxpayers $353 million?
America is still feeling Obama's massive green energy mistakes.
So what in the hell is this?? Now we are going to nationalize the energy markets?? THIS is small government?? Forcing grid operators where to buy from to prop up certain companies??
Coal doesn't "need" any help. As a good business man, Trump sees it as a good investment and is helping it expand even further. Unlike the green energy investments under Obama that still went belly up even after the government helped it. Remember Solyndra? Yikes.
So as someone who clearly supports Republican policies, and ostensibly the theory of "small government" and the free market, you are on board with FORCING private electric companies who they have to buy their energy from??
So what in the hell is this?? Now we are going to nationalize the energy markets?? THIS is small government?? Forcing grid operators where to buy from to prop up certain companies??
Coal doesn't "need" any help. As a good business man, Trump sees it as a good investment and is helping it expand even further. Unlike the green energy investments under Obama that still went belly up even after the government helped it. Remember Solyndra? Yikes.
So as someone who clearly supports Republican policies, and ostensibly the theory of "small government" and the free market, you are on board with FORCING private electric companies who they have to buy their energy from??
You know, all the waste Trump has cut from the federal government since he took office, I'm okay with taking some of those big savings and investing them in energy that actually works in the private market.
And to think, Trump cut all those wasteful government jobs while STILL creating record unemployment for the past 18 months. If you're not behind that, you're not a Conservative at all.
@GaelicVigil: As I mentioned in my review near the anniversary of Trump's inauguration, nearly all metrics for Trump's presidency followed the exact same trends as under Obama's tenure, as I had predicted earlier in the thread. Unemployment, for example, has been going down since 2010. The economy is strong, but it was strong before Trump. That's what the data over the past several years indicate.
The fact is that Obama's economy was never as good as Trump's. As I quoted above, even Obama himself believed it would never get any better by his own estimation. Then again, Obama laughed at the idea that Trump would even be elected President. He was wrong about a lot of things.
And yes, "Democrat Party" is a perfectly fine way of calling it. As in, "the party of the Democrats". That's proper english.
False.
If you are going to quote the man, use the entire quote and not just the meme.
@GaelicVigil: As I mentioned in my review near the anniversary of Trump's inauguration, nearly all metrics for Trump's presidency followed the exact same trends as under Obama's tenure, as I had predicted earlier in the thread. Unemployment, for example, has been going down since 2010. The economy is strong, but it was strong before Trump. That's what the data over the past several years indicate.
The fact is that Obama's economy was never as good as Trump's. As I quoted above, even Obama himself believed it would never get any better by his own estimation. Then again, Obama laughed at the idea that Trump would even be elected President. He was wrong about a lot of things.
And yes, "Democrat Party" is a perfectly fine way of calling it. As in, "the party of the Democrats". That's proper english.
False.
If you are going to quote the man, use the entire quote and not just the meme.
"During a PBS town hall that aired Wednesday, Obama referenced Trump's promise to bring back jobs to the United States when talking about manufacturing.
Obama: “Well, how exactly are you going to do that? What exactly are you going to do? There’s no answer to it," Obama said. "He just says, 'Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.' Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have? And usually the answer is, he doesn’t have an answer.”
So what in the hell is this?? Now we are going to nationalize the energy markets?? THIS is small government?? Forcing grid operators where to buy from to prop up certain companies??
That is quite an anti-Republican move to attempt to make. Most of them claim that they are in favor of keeping government out of business and out of the market. Still, the precedent has been set several times before--this is essentially another form of a TARP-like bailout, except the reason being used is "too essential to fail" rather than "too big to fail".
@GaelicVigil Kinda hard to take your statements seriously when they are peppered with "lol", memes, and using general statements to prove a specific point.
Q My name is Eric Cottingham (ph). And I'm representing the Steelworkers Union, No. 1999. And I'm trying to find out what do we have left as far as all of our jobs are leaving in Indianapolis. And I see here you're doing a lot of things, but in Indianapolis, there’s nothing there for us. I mean, what’s next? What can we look forward to in the future as far as jobs, employment, whatever? Because all of our jobs have left or in the process of leaving, sir.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, in fact, we've seen more manufacturing jobs created since I've been President than any time since the 1990s. That's a fact. And if you look at just the auto industry as an example, they’ve had record sales and they’ve hired back more people over the last five years than they have for a very long, long time. We actually make more stuff, have a bigger manufacturing base today than we've had in most of our history. The problems have been -- part of the problems have had to do with jobs going overseas. And this is one of the reasons why I've been trying to negotiate trade deals to raise wages and environmental standards in other countries so that they’re not undercutting us.
But, frankly, part of it has had to do with automation. You go into an auto factory today that used to have 10,000 and now they’ve got a thousand people making the same number of cars or more. And so what that means is, even though we're making the same amount of stuff in our manufacturing sector, we're employing fewer people.
Now, the good news is that there are entire new industries that are starting to pop up, and you're actually seeing some manufacturers coming back to the United States because they’re starting to realize, you know what, energy prices are lower here, workers are better here, this is our biggest market, and so even though we off-shored and went someplace else before, now it turns out we're better off going ahead and manufacturing here.
But for those folks who’ve lost their job right now because a plant went down to Mexico, that isn't going to make you feel better. And so what we have to do is to make sure that folks are trained for the jobs that are coming in now, because some of those jobs of the past are just not going to come back. And when somebody says -- like the person you just mentioned who I'm not going to advertise for -- that he’s going to bring all these jobs back, well, how exactly are you going to do that? What are you going to do? There’s no answer to it. He just says, well, I'm going to negotiate a better deal. Well, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have? And usually the answer is he doesn’t have an answer.
So what I've tried to do, what my administration has tried to do is let’s grow those manufacturing sectors -- like clean energy, like some of these new technologies that are coming up -- let’s focus on those. We've set up, for example, manufacturing hubs where we work with universities, local businesses, local governments to create research labs that can take something like 3D printing, or nanotechnology, or all kinds of stuff that I can't really explain because the scientists and really smart people know all about it -- (laughter) -- and said let’s invest in this so that when the new jobs come, they’re coming here.
But I got to tell you that the days when you just being willing to work hard and you can now walk into a plant and suddenly there’s going to be a job for you for 30 years or 40 years, that's just not going to be there for our kids, because, more and more, that stuff is going to be automated. And if you go into a factory, that kid is going to need to know computers, or is going to need to know some science and some math -- because they’re not even going to be picking anything up, they’re just going to be working on a keyboard.
And that's why we've put so much emphasis on job training, community colleges. That’s why I’ve proposed making the first two years of community college free so that we know that every young person, they’re going to be able to -- if they’re not going for a full four-year degree, at least they’re going to be getting the technical training they need for those jobs of the future.
But you cannot look backwards. And that doesn’t make folks feel good sometimes, especially if it’s a town that was reliant on a couple of big manufacturers. But they’re going to have to retrain for the jobs of the future, not the jobs of the past.
~~~
So what is trump’s magic wand when we are directly talking about manufacturing jobs (unemployment numbers do not stipulate where these jobs are being created).
So let’s look at the facts:
-more manufacturing jobs under Obama since the 90s. Trump is riding this wave and the graph that semicgod shared illustrates this.
-jobs are being lost more due to automation than overseas. These are the “magic wand” jobs Obama was referencing, not a blanket on all jobs.
- if we want to directly look at steel workers, Trump’s magic wand, that just went into effect today is illegal tariffs imposed on his closest allies who in turn, retailiated with their own tariffs. We’ll probably see in about six months where this magic wand took it.
This doesn't even take into account that, economically, Trump was handed a completely stable situation that had been on a clear trajectory for over 6 years, and that Obama was handed an abject disaster not seen since the 1930s. And the economy did not recover on it's own. There was a direct stimulus package that was the first and most crucial act of his Presidency. It also happened to include a far larger lower and middle-class tax cut than anything in the GOP bill last year. Beyond that, he agreed to EXTEND the Bush tax cuts in exchange for extending unemployment benefits and a cut in the payroll tax in 2010. Point being, the tax cut portion of the fiscal recovery in Obama's first term was FAR more focused on getting people actual money that they needed to survive, whether that was from clearly larger paychecks (which I definitely noticed at the time) and extension of unemployment for those still out of work. Here is the chart of the 2009 stimulus and the Trump cuts based on income:
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Incidentally, I literally grew up around soybeans. In the late 70s, our house was about 1km away from the warehouse/loading dock for a large soybean farm; the farm itself was probably only 4km from the house--our father would often go pistol-shooting with the owner of the farm. It was probably 1978 when a flood hit, though, and the levee separating his farm from the river broke, inundating his fields. I was too young to know any details but I suspect he took the insurance and Dept. of Agriculture settlements then retired--satellite imagery of that location still shows the levee break to this day because the land is listed as being Federal property now. None of that was relevant...but so what?
Has she/you tried Almond milk?
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all
This was an interesting piece that @jjstraka34 posted - I'd not seen that before. There are some good tidbits in there confirming Trump's behavior as President has not changed from earlier years. For instance on lying Schwartz says:
- over the decades, Trump appeared to have convinced himself that he had written the book. Schwartz recalls thinking, “If he could lie about that on Day One—when it was so easily refuted—he is likely to lie about anything.”
- “He lied strategically. He had a complete lack of conscience about it.” Since most people are “constrained by the truth,” Trump’s indifference to it “gave him a strange advantage.”
Someone mentioned a tape which Spanish intelligence agencies turned over to the FBI earlier. Well, now Spain has a new Prime Minister, Pedro Sanchez, after Mariano Rajoy finally suffered a "no confidence" vote because of a long-standing corruption scandal. Truthfully, at this time I am uncertain if this will change the situation with Catalonia--its leaders are still in jail and at least half its citizens want to declare independence.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/unemployment-rate-falls-to-18-year-low-solid-hiring-in-may-1527856298
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/black-unemployment-rate-hits-new-record-low-in-may
Trump's tax cuts are working wonders. So glad we have him, unlike the disaster Obama gave us for eight years. He's fulfilling his campaign promises and MAGA. Remember when Obama mocked Trump when Trump claimed he was going to bring jobs back? Socialism doesn't work.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/281936-obama-to-trump-what-magic-wand-do-you-have
LoL!
It's no wonder blacks and minority support is growing under Trump. He's freeing them from the modern Democrat plantation.
The economy is strong, but it was strong before Trump. That's what the data over the past several years indicate.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-01/trump-said-to-grant-lifeline-to-money-losing-coal-power-plants-jhv94ghl
Once he’s in office though “poof” no more talk of fake numbers (unless you know America starts entering a recession and then it’s back on).
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trumps-jobs-report-tweet-in-advance-of-release-appears-to-have-violated-federal-rules-2018-06-01?siteid=
If he is willing to do this, how do we know he isn't tipping off friends and family to make money off the info??
Trump isn't even capable of taking what is legitimately good news for him without pushing the envelope and possibly breaking federal rules.
And yes, as @deltago said, Trump has been claiming the unemployment numbers were flat-out fake for YEARS. For the record, I believe them because it falls in line with exactly what has been happening for 8 years. I'm not turning around doing a 180 yelling "fake". But that is exactly what Trump did the moment he took office. And as soon as a downturn hits, they will be fake again.
And yes, "Democrat Party" is a perfectly fine way of calling it. As in, "the party of the Democrats". That's proper english.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(epithet)
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=35852
Coal doesn't "need" any help. As a good business man, Trump sees it as a good investment and is helping it expand even further. Unlike the green energy investments under Obama that still went belly up even after he threw $90 billion into it from the 2009 Stimulus. Remember the Solyndra bankruptcy that cost taxpayers $353 million?
America is still feeling Obama's massive green energy mistakes.
Trump has cut 24,000 jobs from the fed. Amazing!
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/federal-government-jobs-down-3000-may-down-24000-under-trump
And to think, Trump cut all those wasteful government jobs while STILL creating record unemployment for the past 18 months. If you're not behind that, you're not a Conservative at all.
If you are going to quote the man, use the entire quote and not just the meme.
obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/06/02/remarks-president-pbs-newshour-town-hall-discussion-gwen-ifill-elkhart#
Here's the quote I referenced in the meme:
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/281936-obama-to-trump-what-magic-wand-do-you-have
"During a PBS town hall that aired Wednesday, Obama referenced Trump's promise to bring back jobs to the United States when talking about manufacturing.
Obama: “Well, how exactly are you going to do that? What exactly are you going to do? There’s no answer to it," Obama said.
"He just says, 'Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.' Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have? And usually the answer is, he doesn’t have an answer.”
"Manufacturing jobs have been on fire since Trump's election"
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/06/manufacturing-industry-leads-job-gains-in-march-continuing-comeback-under-trump.html
Factually true.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/09/opinions/gop-wins-against-democrats-blue-wave-stewart-opinion/index.html
"Blue Wave is now a trickle".
LoL.
Q How are you doing, Mr. President?
THE PRESIDENT: How are you?
Q My name is Eric Cottingham (ph). And I'm representing the Steelworkers Union, No. 1999. And I'm trying to find out what do we have left as far as all of our jobs are leaving in Indianapolis. And I see here you're doing a lot of things, but in Indianapolis, there’s nothing there for us. I mean, what’s next? What can we look forward to in the future as far as jobs, employment, whatever? Because all of our jobs have left or in the process of leaving, sir.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, in fact, we've seen more manufacturing jobs created since I've been President than any time since the 1990s. That's a fact. And if you look at just the auto industry as an example, they’ve had record sales and they’ve hired back more people over the last five years than they have for a very long, long time. We actually make more stuff, have a bigger manufacturing base today than we've had in most of our history. The problems have been -- part of the problems have had to do with jobs going overseas. And this is one of the reasons why I've been trying to negotiate trade deals to raise wages and environmental standards in other countries so that they’re not undercutting us.
But, frankly, part of it has had to do with automation. You go into an auto factory today that used to have 10,000 and now they’ve got a thousand people making the same number of cars or more. And so what that means is, even though we're making the same amount of stuff in our manufacturing sector, we're employing fewer people.
Now, the good news is that there are entire new industries that are starting to pop up, and you're actually seeing some manufacturers coming back to the United States because they’re starting to realize, you know what, energy prices are lower here, workers are better here, this is our biggest market, and so even though we off-shored and went someplace else before, now it turns out we're better off going ahead and manufacturing here.
But for those folks who’ve lost their job right now because a plant went down to Mexico, that isn't going to make you feel better. And so what we have to do is to make sure that folks are trained for the jobs that are coming in now, because some of those jobs of the past are just not going to come back. And when somebody says -- like the person you just mentioned who I'm not going to advertise for -- that he’s going to bring all these jobs back, well, how exactly are you going to do that? What are you going to do? There’s no answer to it. He just says, well, I'm going to negotiate a better deal. Well, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have? And usually the answer is he doesn’t have an answer.
So what I've tried to do, what my administration has tried to do is let’s grow those manufacturing sectors -- like clean energy, like some of these new technologies that are coming up -- let’s focus on those. We've set up, for example, manufacturing hubs where we work with universities, local businesses, local governments to create research labs that can take something like 3D printing, or nanotechnology, or all kinds of stuff that I can't really explain because the scientists and really smart people know all about it -- (laughter) -- and said let’s invest in this so that when the new jobs come, they’re coming here.
But I got to tell you that the days when you just being willing to work hard and you can now walk into a plant and suddenly there’s going to be a job for you for 30 years or 40 years, that's just not going to be there for our kids, because, more and more, that stuff is going to be automated. And if you go into a factory, that kid is going to need to know computers, or is going to need to know some science and some math -- because they’re not even going to be picking anything up, they’re just going to be working on a keyboard.
And that's why we've put so much emphasis on job training, community colleges. That’s why I’ve proposed making the first two years of community college free so that we know that every young person, they’re going to be able to -- if they’re not going for a full four-year degree, at least they’re going to be getting the technical training they need for those jobs of the future.
But you cannot look backwards. And that doesn’t make folks feel good sometimes, especially if it’s a town that was reliant on a couple of big manufacturers. But they’re going to have to retrain for the jobs of the future, not the jobs of the past.
~~~
So what is trump’s magic wand when we are directly talking about manufacturing jobs (unemployment numbers do not stipulate where these jobs are being created).
So let’s look at the facts:
-more manufacturing jobs under Obama since the 90s. Trump is riding this wave and the graph that semicgod shared illustrates this.
-jobs are being lost more due to automation than overseas. These are the “magic wand” jobs Obama was referencing, not a blanket on all jobs.
- if we want to directly look at steel workers, Trump’s magic wand, that just went into effect today is illegal tariffs imposed on his closest allies who in turn, retailiated with their own tariffs. We’ll probably see in about six months where this magic wand took it.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRgOO6XW0AARXfl.jpg