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IWD:EE Joinable NPCs - A vital question

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  • SchneidendSchneidend Member Posts: 3,190
    Grimo88 said:



    He's a lecher, yes, but there's subtly written lechery, and there's hacky Zevran-level lechery.

    I disagree, on both counts. Zevran's actually a sexual deviant and a hedonist by most standards, so playing up his blatant sexuality is perfectly in-character for him and not really hacky at all, especially given his backstory is hilarious and interesting. There's not much subtle about Korgan, lechery included, either. He kills, he pillages, he screws, and he's not at all shy about it and threatens anybody who doesn't like it with death. The way he shamelessly flirts with Mazzy or when he says he'd happily bang and spank Nalia's aunt until her attitude improves are hardly subtle. Like @edwinodesseiron‌ said, Korgan's a badass, and badasses aren't subtle. Subtlety is contrary to the nature of the badass trope proper.
    Dee said:

    Yep.

    So, to get things back on track, how would people feel about a yuan-ti NPC that dual-wields +5 katanas, whose name is Steve?

    In all seriousness, I think a female yuan-ti pureblood Assassin with a katana would be an awesome JNPC for IWD or IWD2.
  • NimranNimran Member Posts: 4,875
    @Dee‌ very appropriate.
  • SapphireIce101SapphireIce101 Member Posts: 866
    @Dee is Ssssteve going to be voiced by Cam Clarke? I would love a JNPC that is voiced by Cam Clarke.
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  • SilverstarSilverstar Member Posts: 2,207
    edited September 2014

    In all seriousness, I think a female yuan-ti pureblood Assassin with a katana would be an awesome JNPC for IWD or IWD2.

    Agreed. I personally prefer that companions' flavour isn't based on their gear, but there you had to go suggest one of my favourite weapons on one of my favourite races and class...
    Dee said:

    I can neither confirm nor deny that Ssssteve the Yuan-ti will be voiced by Mark Ruffalo's best friend Tony Stark.

    The people have a right to know! >:|
  • SchneidendSchneidend Member Posts: 3,190


    Agreed. I personally prefer that companions' flavour isn't based on their gear, but there you had to go suggest one of my favourite weapons on one of my favourite races and class...

    Meh, just a mostly-arbitrary placement of proficiency pips. Also, Yoshimo doesn't count, so we've never actually had a katana-Thief before.
  • NimranNimran Member Posts: 4,875


    Agreed. I personally prefer that companions' flavour isn't based on their gear, but there you had to go suggest one of my favourite weapons on one of my favourite races and class...

    Meh, just a mostly-arbitrary placement of proficiency pips. Also, Yoshimo doesn't count, so we've never actually had a katana-Thief before.
    Yoshimo always gets the shaft.
  • kcwisekcwise Member Posts: 2,287
    Only if he has an eye patch and his last name is Plissken.
  • SchneidendSchneidend Member Posts: 3,190
    Nimran said:



    Yoshimo always gets the shaft.

    As much as Yoshimo's situation sucked for him, I feel like I got screwed the most. I like my thieves to actually be able to gain Thief levels. *glares at Imoen*
  • Grimo88Grimo88 Member Posts: 191

    Grimo88 said:



    He's a lecher, yes, but there's subtly written lechery, and there's hacky Zevran-level lechery.

    I disagree, on both counts. Zevran's actually a sexual deviant and a hedonist by most standards, so playing up his blatant sexuality is perfectly in-character for him and not really hacky at all, especially given his backstory is hilarious and interesting. There's not much subtle about Korgan, lechery included, either. He kills, he pillages, he screws, and he's not at all shy about it and threatens anybody who doesn't like it with death. The way he shamelessly flirts with Mazzy or when he says he'd happily bang and spank Nalia's aunt until her attitude improves are hardly subtle. Like @edwinodesseiron‌ said, Korgan's a badass, and badasses aren't subtle. Subtlety is contrary to the nature of the badass trope proper.
    Dee said:

    Yep.

    So, to get things back on track, how would people feel about a yuan-ti NPC that dual-wields +5 katanas, whose name is Steve?

    In all seriousness, I think a female yuan-ti pureblood Assassin with a katana would be an awesome JNPC for IWD or IWD2.

    Sorry for the late reply, but my point wasn't directed at whether or not it was in character for Korgan. It most certainly is. It was that the quality of the writing was poor.

    I disagree that 'badassery' (a problematic cultural idea in its own right) can't be subtle. Compare the badassness of a Jaime Lannister to an Edward Cullen and you'll see a marked difference in how believable and subtly crafted their characterisation is.
  • SchneidendSchneidend Member Posts: 3,190
    Grimo88 said:




    Sorry for the late reply, but my point wasn't directed at whether or not it was in character for Korgan. It most certainly is. It was that the quality of the writing was poor.

    I disagree that 'badassery' (a problematic cultural idea in its own right) can't be subtle. Compare the badassness of a Jaime Lannister to an Edward Cullen and you'll see a marked difference in how believable and subtly crafted their characterisation is.

    I really don't see how it can be "poor" if it's entirely in-character. It's not as if there were syntax errors, or anything.

    But, yes, a badass can't really be called a badass if they, themselves, as a character, go about solving problems in a subtle manner. Jaime has a problem, he snarks it, or he challenges it to a duel and murders the hell out of it. If you're talking about being subtly written, well that's something completely different.
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,752
    It's quite familiar, isn't it? :)

    Should IWD:EE have NPCs?
    Votes %
    NO 55.30
    YES 44.70
  • JairyannaJairyanna Member Posts: 209
    edited September 2014
    bengoshi said:

    It's quite familiar, isn't it? :)

    Should IWD:EE have NPCs?
    Votes %
    NO 55.30
    YES 44.70

    Too soon, man... :P
    Post edited by Jairyanna on
  • DazzuDazzu Member Posts: 950

    You are automatically NOT a badass if you're sparkly.

    Some brony out there will find that post and disagree that his waif... erm, his favorite deep character from a show clearly not intended for little girls is the most badass thing evar!
  • NimranNimran Member Posts: 4,875

    Grimo88 said:

    Sorry for the late reply, but my point wasn't directed at whether or not it was in character for Korgan. It most certainly is. It was that the quality of the writing was poor.

    I disagree that 'badassery' (a problematic cultural idea in its own right) can't be subtle. Compare the badassness of a Jaime Lannister to an Edward Cullen and you'll see a marked difference in how believable and subtly crafted their characterisation is.

    I read this an I was like "Who the bloody hell is Edward Cullen??" and I googled and was like "OH, THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T KNOW WHO THAT WAS."

    Please pick a better analogy -- actually, on second thought, maybe this one works beautifully. You are automatically NOT a badass if you're sparkly.
    Shots fired! Shots fired! :D
  • kamuizinkamuizin Member Posts: 3,704
    bengoshi said:

    It's quite familiar, isn't it? :)

    Should IWD:EE have NPCs?
    Votes %
    NO 55.30
    YES 44.70

    In the begin, the NO difference was bigger. Now YES each time more reach the NO.

    Anyway i got a point. 117 votes are a serious amount of votes and by getting this % in Yes i got enough proof of a market for future Joinable NPCs DLCs. It's not the so few ppl wanting Joinable NPCs as was said before.
  • ifupaulineifupauline Member Posts: 405
    What about a npc that can join your party if you wish to only for a short amount of time and you have no control over him/her? :) He/She would sometimes interact with you and depending of your answer this might end up in a betrayal or something. Could be fun.
  • SchneidendSchneidend Member Posts: 3,190
    edited September 2014
    1. Turns into a green rage monster.
    2. Shoots people.
    3. Throws tanks at other tanks.
    4. Sets things on fire or electrocutes them. Also curses like a sailor.
  • booinyoureyesbooinyoureyes Member Posts: 6,164

    1. Turns into a green rage monster.
    2. Shoots people.
    3. Throws tanks at other tanks.
    4. Sets things on fire or electrocutes them. Also curses like a sailor.

    Well, yeah, they all carry big sticks, but they all speak softly

    (imagines Norah Jones as She-Hulk)
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