Baldur's Gate Logic: Half-orcs can have 1 Intelligence--the same Intelligence score you could see on a skunk or a beetle or a hippo or some other animal--and still speak Common in complete sentences.
I think that person would be far less intelligent than a tardigrade. Survive on the moon without any space-suit... who needs intelligence?
in the DnD universe, insects dont have an intelligence score, although i know a tardigrade is not an insect i would bet it would be classified as not having intelligence
Baldur's Gate Logic: Half-orcs can have 1 Intelligence--the same Intelligence score you could see on a skunk or a beetle or a hippo or some other animal--and still speak Common in complete sentences.
I think that person would be far less intelligent than a tardigrade. Survive on the moon without any space-suit... who needs intelligence?
in the DnD universe, insects dont have an intelligence score, although i know a tardigrade is not an insect i would bet it would be classified as not having intelligence
Wisdom of 18 though? Survival skills baby!
Edit: On second thought, maybe 25 constitution. I doubt they could hold a philosophical discussion for long...
I fail to see how being able to speak a proper and fluent common helps at hitting jon's head with my big flail, but maybe is because my mum rolled for me a low int score when my character was created in the strange rpg that is called life.
The idea a paladin can take scalps and still remain a paladin was always hard to believe.
Looting dead bodies in general isn't exactly the height of heroism. Hard to imagine a paladin rummaging through a man's pockets for spare change after he killed him.
It's so deeply ingrained in how we play videogames though.
I fail to see how being able to speak a proper and fluent common helps at hitting jon's head with my big flail, but maybe is because my mum rolled for me a low int score when my character was created in the strange rpg that is called life.
No misspellings. That's either a testament to spell-check (doubtful in my experience) or a testament to your mum's child-raising skills!
Edit: Sorry, you said 'is' instead of 'it's'. You must be a half-orc...
Monks train their body, and gain seemingly supernatural physical abilities.
Fighters train in the use of a weapon, becoming supremely skilled in that sense.
Is there anything actually stopping somebody from doing both though? Like it kind of seems like a no brainer to gain the seemingly supernatural physical abilities, then use them to swing a sword.
Like, if you're so inclined you you can be a Grandmaster Weapons User an an Archmage at the same time, but I guess for some reason monks and fighters don't mesh well together.
Monks train their body, and gain seemingly supernatural physical abilities.
Fighters train in the use of a weapon, becoming supremely skilled in that sense.
Is there anything actually stopping somebody from doing both though? Like it kind of seems like a no brainer to gain the seemingly supernatural physical abilities, then use them to swing a sword.
Like, if you're so inclined you you can be a Grandmaster Weapons User an an Archmage at the same time, but I guess for some reason monks and fighters don't mesh well together.
They can swing katana and scimitars, just not 'Western' swords. Makes sense if you trained in Kathmandu, but not so much if you trained in Candlekeep!
Baldur's Gate logic: Monks are so highly trained in the martial arts that they can't make their bare hands non-lethal. You can never knock somebody out, only kill them. Even Bruce Lee didn't kill everybody he hit!
They can swing katana and scimitars, just not 'Western' swords. Makes sense if you trained in Kathmandu, but not so much if you trained in Candlekeep!
Monks can learn to use western swords just fine; their proficiency list is all of the one-handed thief weapons. It's just Rasaad who starts out knowing how to use katanas and scimitars, and he's an immigrant.
Baldur's gate logic: a monk's martial arts training can improve their ability to bite and claw people when transformed into a wolf, but not to use manufactured weapons. They get bonus APR with fists or shapeshifted natural attacks, but not with swords. (Because of this, the cloak "Relair's Mistake" is the best Monk weapon in BG1; it's a magic weapon that gets up to 3 APR depending on level.)
Monks train their body, and gain seemingly supernatural physical abilities.
Fighters train in the use of a weapon, becoming supremely skilled in that sense.
Is there anything actually stopping somebody from doing both though? Like it kind of seems like a no brainer to gain the seemingly supernatural physical abilities, then use them to swing a sword.
Well, to master a weapon, you have to be supremely good at using your body. A sword is but an extension of your arm, so you need to know how to recruit the correct muscles in your back, chest and shoulders to deliver a good blow. Not to mention the general hand-body co-ordination and the footwork needed for maneuvering a combat situation.
I think it goes without saying that any martial arts master would be able to pick up a weapon and be pretty good at it off the bat. Their body mastery and kinesthetic intuition would make up for the lack of specific training in that weapon skill. And if they went ahead and trained in that weapon, they would master it quite fast, much faster than your run-of-the-mill soldier.
Take the real life example of the gymnast and the weightlifter. The gymnast trains almost exclusively with their bodyweight, yet the skills they accrue can easily made use of in the weight room. A weightlifter with a 400lbs bench press, on the other hand, would not be able to do handstand pushups straight away, because their pure brawn does not make up for their lack of bodyweight skills.
The amusing thing is that the real life martial arts monks (Shaolin et al) DO train with a variety of weapons in addition to unarmed combat. They use everything from swords to maces to dual-wielding to polearms. Unarmed combat was always regarded as something to be used for duels (when you weren't planning to kill your opponent) or when you were caught without a weapon in hand; only the foolish pugilist would actually go to war without a weapon at all.
I really love the monk/druid multi. Especially with Sacred fist if you got PRC. Feels even more druidic to not even use wood to bash enemies, just your fists. IIRC the Sacred fist becomes a plant or something in the end instead of a.. whatever it is monks get at level 20 (planar?)
How will we defend ourselves against the Barbarians? How I ask you?
Sure you don't think it yet but just wait until the Alien Barbarians show up at our front doors, then you'll be begging for Old Johnny Gazebo to have tried just a bit harder to defend his property.
How will we defend ourselves against the Barbarians? How I ask you?
Sure you don't think it yet but just wait until the Alien Barbarians show up at our front doors, then you'll be begging for Old Johnny Gazebo to have tried just a bit harder to defend his property.
How many cats can you store in a gazebo? This could potentially be an absolute 'cat'astrophe!!!
Uh oh.. My spider-sense indicate a lot of probing coming!
spider-sense?
which mod are you using please? when polymorphed into spider form i don't get that ability, i just get a strong desire to feed myself with some insects i would never eat while in my natural form.
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in the DnD universe, insects dont have an intelligence score, although i know a tardigrade is not an insect i would bet it would be classified as not having intelligence
Wisdom of 18 though? Survival skills baby!
Edit: On second thought, maybe 25 constitution. I doubt they could hold a philosophical discussion for long...
Looting dead bodies in general isn't exactly the height of heroism. Hard to imagine a paladin rummaging through a man's pockets for spare change after he killed him.
It's so deeply ingrained in how we play videogames though.
No misspellings. That's either a testament to spell-check (doubtful in my experience) or a testament to your mum's child-raising skills!
Edit: Sorry, you said 'is' instead of 'it's'. You must be a half-orc...
Fighters train in the use of a weapon, becoming supremely skilled in that sense.
Is there anything actually stopping somebody from doing both though? Like it kind of seems like a no brainer to gain the seemingly supernatural physical abilities, then use them to swing a sword.
Like, if you're so inclined you you can be a Grandmaster Weapons User an an Archmage at the same time, but I guess for some reason monks and fighters don't mesh well together.
They can swing katana and scimitars, just not 'Western' swords. Makes sense if you trained in Kathmandu, but not so much if you trained in Candlekeep!
Baldur's Gate logic: Monks are so highly trained in the martial arts that they can't make their bare hands non-lethal. You can never knock somebody out, only kill them. Even Bruce Lee didn't kill everybody he hit!
Monks can learn to use western swords just fine; their proficiency list is all of the one-handed thief weapons. It's just Rasaad who starts out knowing how to use katanas and scimitars, and he's an immigrant.
Baldur's gate logic: a monk's martial arts training can improve their ability to bite and claw people when transformed into a wolf, but not to use manufactured weapons. They get bonus APR with fists or shapeshifted natural attacks, but not with swords. (Because of this, the cloak "Relair's Mistake" is the best Monk weapon in BG1; it's a magic weapon that gets up to 3 APR depending on level.)
Well, to master a weapon, you have to be supremely good at using your body. A sword is but an extension of your arm, so you need to know how to recruit the correct muscles in your back, chest and shoulders to deliver a good blow. Not to mention the general hand-body co-ordination and the footwork needed for maneuvering a combat situation.
I think it goes without saying that any martial arts master would be able to pick up a weapon and be pretty good at it off the bat. Their body mastery and kinesthetic intuition would make up for the lack of specific training in that weapon skill. And if they went ahead and trained in that weapon, they would master it quite fast, much faster than your run-of-the-mill soldier.
Take the real life example of the gymnast and the weightlifter. The gymnast trains almost exclusively with their bodyweight, yet the skills they accrue can easily made use of in the weight room. A weightlifter with a 400lbs bench press, on the other hand, would not be able to do handstand pushups straight away, because their pure brawn does not make up for their lack of bodyweight skills.
Well, everyone Bruce Lee struck will eventually die.
Yup. Just takes time.
Also I think in later editions you can basically multi class whatever you want.
3rd Edition Elminster has levels in Fighter Mage Cleric Thief and Archmage
My current pathfinder character has levels in Bard and Rogue.
I follow the righteous path, unless Helm orders me to backhand you!
I could make a terrible pun about that. But I would hate myself forever about that so I just won't.
I will hate you forever if you don't! I LOVE terrible puns! Pleeeease post it.
I really love the monk/druid multi. Especially with Sacred fist if you got PRC. Feels even more druidic to not even use wood to bash enemies, just your fists. IIRC the Sacred fist becomes a plant or something in the end instead of a.. whatever it is monks get at level 20 (planar?)
That being said, I might as well join the party.
Helm sees all, know that and be judged by the almighty game of Fronthand Backhand.
No.
Pretty please???
Or worse, our cats!
Or worse our gazebos.
How will we defend ourselves against the Barbarians? How I ask you?
Sure you don't think it yet but just wait until the Alien Barbarians show up at our front doors, then you'll be begging for Old Johnny Gazebo to have tried just a bit harder to defend his property.
How many cats can you store in a gazebo? This could potentially be an absolute 'cat'astrophe!!!
Yes begone foul creature or we shall feed ye to the gazebos.
Uh oh.. My spider-sense indicate a lot of probing coming!
which mod are you using please? when polymorphed into spider form i don't get that ability, i just get a strong desire to feed myself with some insects i would never eat while in my natural form.