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BGII:EE and IWD:EE are back on Google Play

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  • Anyname1Anyname1 Member Posts: 22
    edited May 28
    There was no special treatment towards mobile versions if compared to the PC versions. The 2.5 patches for BG:EE, BGII:EE, IWD:EE and SoD arrived after months of beta testing on all the platforms. PST:EE was also patched simultaneously on different platforms.

    What about the 1.3 and the 2.3 versions of the game. Which left crossplay impossible due to the different versions for at least 1.5 yrs.

    We need more info on what's going on with the games and dlc we've purchased. Beamdog are refusing to let us know anything substantial. Or do you think its OK we have thrown our hard earned money away.

  • PokotaPokota Member Posts: 558
    edited May 28
    Anyname1 wrote: »
    We can't discuss Google or Apple. We provided an update on the situation less than 2 weeks ago, and will share substantial news when we have it.

    There is no worthwhile update its the same what we knew already just reworded. We want some sort of timeline. It's a shambles it's come to this.

    At just adds more to the narrative that the android version is just a cash grab with very little after market support.

    He literally just said they CANNOT do that. Not "don't want to", not "don't have one ready", but "CANNOT". Which implies, like with what delayed BG2EE all those years ago, that there's some sort of legal thing running interference that has NDAs connected to it.

    Prince_Raymond
  • Royal2003Royal2003 Member Posts: 10
    So just to cut in, there isn't any kind of long cast that has fallen out of your planning matrix meeting? Genuinely if there isn't any timeline then just say and I'll keep my mouth shut. Cheers

  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 18,611
    There is no ETA for this but it doesn't mean it won't happen and it doesn't mean nothing is being done regarding it.

    StummvonBordwehrPrince_RaymondRoyal2003
  • Skree83Skree83 Member Posts: 12
    There is no ETA for this but it doesn't mean it won't happen and it doesn't mean nothing is being done regarding it.

    Try to look at all this mayhem in the good way, like glass half full: all these pissed off people mean you have a decent user base and they want your games.

    Just wanted to point out a bit this, because i know that being in support or in "public relations" roles is a bit hard at times.

    Or a lot hard, at times like these.

    lolienPrince_RaymondMERLANCE
  • Royal2003Royal2003 Member Posts: 10
    Roger that julius cheers mate.

    JuliusBorisov
  • Inferno787Inferno787 Member Posts: 5
    A couple weeks ago I posted and said patience. Since then I have changed my mind. What the hell kind of product has you pay for it then a couple weeks later takes that product away for MONTHS. Beamdog I am sorry but you are amateurs if you cannot put a privacy policy in the game in two months.

    This is beyond ridiculous now. We paid for the game and want to play. Give us a ETA at least or hire some people to write some basic code (and it is very basic) to put the EULA in game.

  • justinwpujustinwpu Member Posts: 1
    Bro, fuck Ohio. I paid money for some nostalgia that I've been waiting months to experience. It literally was taken off right after I bought it. I bought it and it was GONE. I don't understand why I can't just download it from a 3rd party, like I don't know.., they're own damn website? Guess I'll check PB. #wastedmoney 😡

  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 6,764
    edited May 30
    justinwpu wrote: »
    Bro, fuck Ohio. I paid money for some nostalgia that I've been waiting months to experience. It literally was taken off right after I bought it. I bought it and it was GONE. I don't understand why I can't just download it from a 3rd party, like I don't know.., they're own damn website? Guess I'll check PB. #wastedmoney 😡


    That's completely shitty if it's true and I feel for you the most in this thread.

  • TressetTresset Member, Moderator Posts: 7,571
    We understand that this is a frustrating situation for people, but any discussion/advocacy of software piracy is against site rules and will be dealt with accordingly.

    StummvonBordwehrPrince_Raymondsemiticgod
  • shabadooshabadoo Member Posts: 154
    I understand your frustrated, bro. But fuck your nostalgia. Get another game and play that. If ten bucks hurts you so bad then you're irresponsible for spending it on games in the first place.

    Prince_Raymond
  • RaduzielRaduziel Member Posts: 4,476
    shabadoo wrote: »
    I understand your frustrated, bro. But fuck your nostalgia. Get another game and play that. If ten bucks hurts you so bad then you're irresponsible for spending it on games in the first place.

    That's blaming the "victim".

    And for many people it is not about the money but about respect.

    semiticgodTimbo0o0o0
  • Anyname1Anyname1 Member Posts: 22
    Tresset wrote: »
    Sure, sure... Beamdog wants to do this to everyone... it isn't like they are losing any money because of Google and their antics. /sarcasm

    Seriously people, Google is the real villain here. Beamdog is hurt most of all by having their games pulled from the market. What do the players lose? A few bucks and a single game... Nothing that important in the grand scheme of things. Beamdog is loosing profits from 2 whole games of theirs for who knows how long since they are unable to sell them. That hurts their business and livelihood a TON. And the gigantic corporation worth several billions? Do you think they even give a crap about any of the smaller companies they walk all over on a daily basis? I suspect most emphatically not...

    It's not just Google though. It's both Beamdog and Google.

  • StummvonBordwehrStummvonBordwehr Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 664
    Not just google but beamdog as well? Really?
    From what I understand Beandog has promised to bring the games back, which is a whole lot more than a bunch of other companies will not. The wait is annoying for sure, but it is coming.

    From what I have paid for on iTunes, I still rank Beamdogs games the best buy ever. Price value is second to none. So I can fully understand the frustration in not being able to play the games - but cut Bemdog some slack... Beamdog have promised to bring the game back and enhance them further. Its good enough for now - so hold your wraith to the the unlikely time they decide to retract the promise to bring the game back.

    shabadooGusindaPrince_Raymond
  • PirriePirrie Member Posts: 26
    I'm wondering out of the people here starting on Beamdog, how many of them actually work in the field and have any idea just what is involved in recoding either game.

    One thing I hate about the internet is there are so many people that think they are experts and mouth off, where in person they would be too scared.

    shabadoo
  • shabadooshabadoo Member Posts: 154
    Raduziel wrote: »
    shabadoo wrote: »
    I understand your frustrated, bro. But fuck your nostalgia. Get another game and play that. If ten bucks hurts you so bad then you're irresponsible for spending it on games in the first place.

    That's blaming the "victim".

    And for many people it is not about the money but about respect.

    I didn't blame anyone for anything. Except, possibly, irresponsible spending. When you say fuck victims of natural disaster, i want my game, i lose respect.

    Prince_Raymond
  • PirriePirrie Member Posts: 26
    @JuliusBorisov I hope once everything is sorted that work will commence on a new Android game. There are too many silly little ad funded pay to win games and not enough proper titles hence why the loss of yours makes things all the worse.

    For those wanting something to play now, may I suggest KOTOR, Rebuild 3 or XCOM, none of which are pay to win.

    StummvonBordwehrPrince_Raymond
  • Wolfspirit72Wolfspirit72 Member Posts: 1
    Swapped phones, lost Icewind Dale. It's a sad day... 😕
    Any fix?

  • StummvonBordwehrStummvonBordwehr Member, Mobile Tester Posts: 664
    Pirrie wrote: »
    @JuliusBorisov I hope once everything is sorted that work will commence on a new Android game. There are too many silly little ad funded pay to win games and not enough proper titles hence why the loss of yours makes things all the worse.

    For those wanting something to play now, may I suggest KOTOR, Rebuild 3 or XCOM, none of which are pay to win.

    I will second that. The games so far has been fairly prized and the added content is optional - many other games has clearly turned the business case up side down on that one...

    There is a Kotor - and it is quite good actually. But a great game, and that universe can easily hold much more content

    Prince_Raymond
  • shabadooshabadoo Member Posts: 154
    Indeed it seems as though Google is holding these games hostage, then constantly changing their demands. Makes it hard for small companies to keep up. It's kind of sad that the companies have to take the blame while Google remains squeaky clean.

    StummvonBordwehrTressetPrince_Raymondsemiticgod
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 6,764
    I will also mention, the delay and “can’t talk about it” reason probably (95% certain) has to do with a third party people are forgetting about - Wizards of the Coast.

    Anything Beamdog releases with their IP needs WotC approval.

    StummvonBordwehrshabadooPrince_RaymondTimbo0o0o0
  • RaduzielRaduziel Member Posts: 4,476
    edited May 31
    WotC is always the villain, no matter who or what is on the other side.

    Rik_Kirtaniyaunseeingeye
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 6,764
    I am not saying they are a villain. I am just saying it’s another hoop Beamdog needs to jump through before releasing anything.

  • shabadooshabadoo Member Posts: 154
    ... and with nearly everything in the series about to be released on console, lots of tight lips and time demands all around.

  • RaduzielRaduziel Member Posts: 4,476
    deltago wrote: »
    I am not saying they are a villain. I am just saying it’s another hoop Beamdog needs to jump through before releasing anything.

    You're not saying.

    I'm saying.

    WotC is the villain. Always.

    I'm quit my ranting before I get punished.

    Rik_Kirtaniyaunseeingeye
  • Prince_RaymondPrince_Raymond Member Posts: 257
    edited June 1
    I understand the frustration, but we've already told it'll take a while, and there can't be a quick solution. Yes, there's a reason it takes time (and a reason the 2.6 patch is getting delayed) which we haven't shared. Sorry that we can't share the reason.

    We all have to wait. Yes, @Tresset is correct - the company is losing money not being able to sell the games for months, and also is losing something probably more valuable taking into account a few comments from this thread and from other places in the Internet. And yes, nobody in the company is happy about that, far from it. The work is being done.

    However, frustration can't justify piracy and rude comments.

    The requirements for the games on Google Play keep changing. Here's the most recent (new) change - https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/343590/Google_Plays_new_dev_policies_aim_to_improve_child_privacy_and_safety.php

    We're sorry you can't play these games, and we thank you all for buying the games when you did. We'll fix this situation eventually.

    QFT I find it very suspicious on Google's end that they would change their privacy policies as often as a normal person changes their underwear all for the sake of "improving child privacy and safety." I mean, most of the games that you can download for free were developed to be safely played by people of all ages. The games that must be purchased in order to play should already have an ESRB rating of at least "T for Teen" and up. That's the rating on the boxes of my original retail copies of Neverwinter Nights Classic and both expansions. One would think that to even buy the games on Google Play, you would need a credit card or a debit card that can be charged as one issued by a financial institution. To my knowledge, adults have been the only ones to carry those. The point I'm trying to make is: It seems redundant for Google to go to such lengths to keep children from playing games that were developed with the intention of being played by a more mature audience, whom would be the only ones with the means to purchase said games to begin with. Thank you for reading, and happy gaming to all.

    Post edited by Prince_Raymond on
    StummvonBordwehr
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